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		<title>Comment on 100 Must-Read Books: The Essential Man&#8217;s Library by charlesyarbrough.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great blog on the top books ever written for men</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlesyarbrough.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great blog on the top books ever written for men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 04:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on 100 Must-Read Books: The Essential Man&#8217;s Library by links for 2008-05-17 &#171; Paolo Gabrielli&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-05-17 &#171; Paolo Gabrielli&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Get Bigger &#038; Stronger with Stronglifts.com by Kian</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/01/17/get-bigger-stronger-with-strongliftscom/#comment-3327</link>
		<dc:creator>Kian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be some more information added to this article. 
First and foremost a 5x5 plan is a great program for some people, but for those just starting to lift weights it has serious potential for injury. Most people lift weights extremely poorly, and reading instructions on-line or even looking at pictures and video will only help some of the problems. 

I mean this in no offense to Mehdi and what he is done, but a lot of the information given on his website goes against modern science, biomechanics, physiology, and exercise science. If you were to follow his advice on how to perform a dip you would end up with an increased forward head posture, increased tightness in the neck and lower back, and most likely develop a shoulder injury. 

I've worked in the fitness industry as a trainer for over 4 years, and before that worked in gyms all up and down California, which is arguably the mecca of the fitness world (modern body building was started here). I'm an ACE CPT, STOTT SPX, C.H.E.C.K APD, have a B.A. in communication studies, and am in the middle of a Masters program in Exercise Physiology. I'm not trying to brag, but I've seen enough injuries caused by poor form that could have been prevented by good instruction and I don't want a good group of people who are trying to promote the benefits of manliness to be tainted with misinformation that could be potentially harmful.

I would suggest to those who are interested in getting into training to meet with a well certified personal trainer (look for someone who's been in the industry for a while and is either ACE, NASM, OR CSCS certified); suck up your pride and learn how to do things right. Sure it may be expensive, but think of it this way 70-90 dollars with a trainer or a couple hundred grand with a surgeon, chiropractor and physical therapist when you slip a disc, or develop chronic back pain.

For those of you who have been training for years I would still say get a session, most trainers will give you one free one, and if they can't teach you anything new then you're set. Odds are you're doing something that's going to mess your body up, so fix it. 

-Kian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be some more information added to this article.<br />
First and foremost a 5&#215;5 plan is a great program for some people, but for those just starting to lift weights it has serious potential for injury. Most people lift weights extremely poorly, and reading instructions on-line or even looking at pictures and video will only help some of the problems. </p>
<p>I mean this in no offense to Mehdi and what he is done, but a lot of the information given on his website goes against modern science, biomechanics, physiology, and exercise science. If you were to follow his advice on how to perform a dip you would end up with an increased forward head posture, increased tightness in the neck and lower back, and most likely develop a shoulder injury. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked in the fitness industry as a trainer for over 4 years, and before that worked in gyms all up and down California, which is arguably the mecca of the fitness world (modern body building was started here). I&#8217;m an ACE CPT, STOTT SPX, C.H.E.C.K APD, have a B.A. in communication studies, and am in the middle of a Masters program in Exercise Physiology. I&#8217;m not trying to brag, but I&#8217;ve seen enough injuries caused by poor form that could have been prevented by good instruction and I don&#8217;t want a good group of people who are trying to promote the benefits of manliness to be tainted with misinformation that could be potentially harmful.</p>
<p>I would suggest to those who are interested in getting into training to meet with a well certified personal trainer (look for someone who&#8217;s been in the industry for a while and is either ACE, NASM, OR CSCS certified); suck up your pride and learn how to do things right. Sure it may be expensive, but think of it this way 70-90 dollars with a trainer or a couple hundred grand with a surgeon, chiropractor and physical therapist when you slip a disc, or develop chronic back pain.</p>
<p>For those of you who have been training for years I would still say get a session, most trainers will give you one free one, and if they can&#8217;t teach you anything new then you&#8217;re set. Odds are you&#8217;re doing something that&#8217;s going to mess your body up, so fix it. </p>
<p>-Kian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asking a Woman&#8217;s Father For Her Hand In Marriage by apollonian</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/15/asking-a-womans-father-for-her-hand-in-marriage/#comment-3326</link>
		<dc:creator>apollonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, most women just aren't going to understand this tradition.  If the ordeal of asking the presumptive bride's father is anything more than a slight annoyance to her, you might reexamine how much she'll respect your values in a marriage.

Most potential father-in-laws will respect the gesture because the son-in-law must show backbone in the act of asking for support, signaling that he is a confident man with stamina to negotiate the real-world challenges of being a husband and father (e.g. not running out at the first sign of trouble and leaving the ex-father-in-law to deal with the fallout). 

If a potential wife cannot acquiesce to her boyfriend formally requesting her father's support of the union, the boyfriend might consider whether her Women's Studies programming hasn't terminally undermined a willingness to respect male values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, most women just aren&#8217;t going to understand this tradition.  If the ordeal of asking the presumptive bride&#8217;s father is anything more than a slight annoyance to her, you might reexamine how much she&#8217;ll respect your values in a marriage.</p>
<p>Most potential father-in-laws will respect the gesture because the son-in-law must show backbone in the act of asking for support, signaling that he is a confident man with stamina to negotiate the real-world challenges of being a husband and father (e.g. not running out at the first sign of trouble and leaving the ex-father-in-law to deal with the fallout). </p>
<p>If a potential wife cannot acquiesce to her boyfriend formally requesting her father&#8217;s support of the union, the boyfriend might consider whether her Women&#8217;s Studies programming hasn&#8217;t terminally undermined a willingness to respect male values.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asking a Woman&#8217;s Father For Her Hand In Marriage by Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the plunge and asked my wife's father for her hand in marriage and it was the best possible way that I could have started our marriage.  As for the sexist remarks, this is an honorable act that will show your future wife and her family that you have real values and a respect for the sanctitiy of marriage.  Only MEN need apply for this one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the plunge and asked my wife&#8217;s father for her hand in marriage and it was the best possible way that I could have started our marriage.  As for the sexist remarks, this is an honorable act that will show your future wife and her family that you have real values and a respect for the sanctitiy of marriage.  Only MEN need apply for this one!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asking a Woman&#8217;s Father For Her Hand In Marriage by Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing how some people can get their panties in such a wad over a timeless tradition that has been carried out for centuries. It's such an obvious expression of respect for the women being sought after, and the parents of the daughter.

So Y2K flipped and all of a sudden it's okay for guys to be inconsiderate in the 21st century? I'm guessing these same feminists don't like for men to hold the door open for them either...

Sheesh, stop being so bitter. You enjoy going through life tactless and irreverent -- we get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how some people can get their panties in such a wad over a timeless tradition that has been carried out for centuries. It&#8217;s such an obvious expression of respect for the women being sought after, and the parents of the daughter.</p>
<p>So Y2K flipped and all of a sudden it&#8217;s okay for guys to be inconsiderate in the 21st century? I&#8217;m guessing these same feminists don&#8217;t like for men to hold the door open for them either&#8230;</p>
<p>Sheesh, stop being so bitter. You enjoy going through life tactless and irreverent &#8212; we get it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 100 Must-Read Books: The Essential Man&#8217;s Library by Craig</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/14/100-must-read-books-the-essential-mans-library/#comment-3322</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100 books and not a Heinlein amongst them. Rubbish.</description>
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		<title>Comment on 100 Must-Read Books: The Essential Man&#8217;s Library by a perkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>a perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good list, but how could you include wealth of nations without including the work which built a tower on it's submerged foundations: Capital? 

Atlas may shrug all he likes, but the lessons of Rand are best learnt through the objective and authoritative perspective of Marx. It is a tad dry to read, perhaps, but then so are The Politics and english translations of Nietzsche.

Even if one disagrees with Marx's conclusions on labour theory of value, any Man who considers himself to be well-rounded surely requires a strong grounding in marxian (if not marxist) theory? Even if simply to be capable of intelligently rebutting socialist economic ideas.

But as i said, apart from that (and the scout books... but then each to their own), a very good list, well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good list, but how could you include wealth of nations without including the work which built a tower on it&#8217;s submerged foundations: Capital? </p>
<p>Atlas may shrug all he likes, but the lessons of Rand are best learnt through the objective and authoritative perspective of Marx. It is a tad dry to read, perhaps, but then so are The Politics and english translations of Nietzsche.</p>
<p>Even if one disagrees with Marx&#8217;s conclusions on labour theory of value, any Man who considers himself to be well-rounded surely requires a strong grounding in marxian (if not marxist) theory? Even if simply to be capable of intelligently rebutting socialist economic ideas.</p>
<p>But as i said, apart from that (and the scout books&#8230; but then each to their own), a very good list, well done.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asking a Woman&#8217;s Father For Her Hand In Marriage by Brett McKay</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/15/asking-a-womans-father-for-her-hand-in-marriage/#comment-3320</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kat- See ya!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Asking a Woman&#8217;s Father For Her Hand In Marriage by Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One entry less on my list of RSS-feeds, let me know when you have arrived in the 21th century.</description>
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