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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/07/15/meet-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-59324</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew my girlfriends parents before her.  I thought seeing them for the first time after we started dating would be odd.  I followed the rules in the article anyways and I am glad I did because they appreciated the formal politeness.

 People would live together for a number of reasons before getting married. If you are committed to each other and do not want to get married yet (want to finish grad school, want to wait until after another friends wedding, a family member is ill), it still might make more sense to live together rather then paying for two appartments or to be able to spend more time together if you are both very busy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew my girlfriends parents before her.  I thought seeing them for the first time after we started dating would be odd.  I followed the rules in the article anyways and I am glad I did because they appreciated the formal politeness.</p>
<p> People would live together for a number of reasons before getting married. If you are committed to each other and do not want to get married yet (want to finish grad school, want to wait until after another friends wedding, a family member is ill), it still might make more sense to live together rather then paying for two appartments or to be able to spend more time together if you are both very busy.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/07/15/meet-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-56845</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the reference to living together and lacking in responsibility referred to people who are living together mostly for the sex rather than commitment. Certainly this doesn&#039;t apply to everyone. I, personally, believe that people should live together first. That&#039;s not irresponsible if done for the right reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the reference to living together and lacking in responsibility referred to people who are living together mostly for the sex rather than commitment. Certainly this doesn&#8217;t apply to everyone. I, personally, believe that people should live together first. That&#8217;s not irresponsible if done for the right reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@M. Steve

Well said, in regards to Manliness correlating with respect. 

@john 
I didn&#039;t quite get the relationship between &quot;living together&quot; and &quot;lack of responsibility&quot;, as determining that level of compatibility before marriage seems QUITE responsible.

I am divorced and am currently in a very strong relationship and will be meeting the parents next weekend.  It has been a LONG time since I had to do anything of the sort and this article was a good refresher on what i think are the basic tenets (or should be) of any social interaction:  Be nice, Be sincere. Be confident. Don&#039;t be a jackass.
As i said though, I am divorced, my girlfriend has never been married.  Any suggestions on how to handle it if the matter of my old marriage is brought up without appearing defensive or insulted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@M. Steve</p>
<p>Well said, in regards to Manliness correlating with respect. </p>
<p>@john<br />
I didn&#8217;t quite get the relationship between &#8220;living together&#8221; and &#8220;lack of responsibility&#8221;, as determining that level of compatibility before marriage seems QUITE responsible.</p>
<p>I am divorced and am currently in a very strong relationship and will be meeting the parents next weekend.  It has been a LONG time since I had to do anything of the sort and this article was a good refresher on what i think are the basic tenets (or should be) of any social interaction:  Be nice, Be sincere. Be confident. Don&#8217;t be a jackass.<br />
As i said though, I am divorced, my girlfriend has never been married.  Any suggestions on how to handle it if the matter of my old marriage is brought up without appearing defensive or insulted?</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/07/15/meet-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-54644</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should avoid meeting a woman&#039;s parents at all costs. Eventually the relationship will probably end and no matter how hard you try, they probably won&#039;t like you after that. Why waste the energy on something that likely won&#039;t end well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should avoid meeting a woman&#8217;s parents at all costs. Eventually the relationship will probably end and no matter how hard you try, they probably won&#8217;t like you after that. Why waste the energy on something that likely won&#8217;t end well?</p>
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		<title>By: M. Steve</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/07/15/meet-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-38403</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@john

Not everyone, especially those who are not particularly religious, equated commitment with marriage.  My girlfriend and I live together, and are fully committed to each other.  We are responsible when &quot;playing house&quot; (what a vulgar euphemism for two people expressing their love) and use birth control (in fact, she was my &quot;first).  We plan on marrying before we have children.  I agree that no couple should live together without committing to each other, but, if they do not view marriage as a religious obligation, why should the state be require to approve of their commitment?

P.S.  Manliness also correlates with respect, especially for women.  Your rude and dismissive reply to Julie does you no favors if improving your manliness is your goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@john</p>
<p>Not everyone, especially those who are not particularly religious, equated commitment with marriage.  My girlfriend and I live together, and are fully committed to each other.  We are responsible when &#8220;playing house&#8221; (what a vulgar euphemism for two people expressing their love) and use birth control (in fact, she was my &#8220;first).  We plan on marrying before we have children.  I agree that no couple should live together without committing to each other, but, if they do not view marriage as a religious obligation, why should the state be require to approve of their commitment?</p>
<p>P.S.  Manliness also correlates with respect, especially for women.  Your rude and dismissive reply to Julie does you no favors if improving your manliness is your goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Duran</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/07/15/meet-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-37716</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Duran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed the section on building rapport. I think your view works anywhere but especially if the girl&#039;s parents are from a different country, have a different background or come from a very different culture than you. 

What you said about being engaged in conversations, really does go along way to presenting you in the best light and building a relationship with your in-laws or in-laws-to-be.

This really is a must read for any man setting out to meet his girlfriend or wife&#039;s parents for the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed the section on building rapport. I think your view works anywhere but especially if the girl&#8217;s parents are from a different country, have a different background or come from a very different culture than you. </p>
<p>What you said about being engaged in conversations, really does go along way to presenting you in the best light and building a relationship with your in-laws or in-laws-to-be.</p>
<p>This really is a must read for any man setting out to meet his girlfriend or wife&#8217;s parents for the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie,
Good for ya, but manliness correlates to responsibility. I hope that no one gets pregnant before you find out that your morning routines are incompatible. For my daughter, I will be firmly in the &quot;why would you be living with my daughter and not committed to her camp&quot;. But you can rationalize your desires in any way that suits you. My comment was directed to men that may see the convenience of shacking up without having the adult realization that playing house has consequences. Modern feminism has done a wonderful job of convincing a woman that giving a man exactly what a teenage boy has always dreamed of would empower her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,<br />
Good for ya, but manliness correlates to responsibility. I hope that no one gets pregnant before you find out that your morning routines are incompatible. For my daughter, I will be firmly in the &#8220;why would you be living with my daughter and not committed to her camp&#8221;. But you can rationalize your desires in any way that suits you. My comment was directed to men that may see the convenience of shacking up without having the adult realization that playing house has consequences. Modern feminism has done a wonderful job of convincing a woman that giving a man exactly what a teenage boy has always dreamed of would empower her.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/07/15/meet-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-36430</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John: I can at least one situation where a couple would be living together before meeting the woman&#039;s parents. They might be in another city (or even another continent) and fairly far along in their relationship, but for whatever reason haven&#039;t been able to go back to her hometown.

As a general rule, I strongly believe in living together before marriage. There&#039;s simply no other way of knowing whether your living habits are compatible. Why find that out AFTER you get married and it&#039;s so much harder to separate if you realize things aren&#039;t working out because you like staying up until 4 am while she wants to wake up at 7 am? Or because one of you is a neat freak and the other&#039;s a slob?

This autumn, I will be moving in with my boyfriend of two years, with both my parents&#039; blessing. They are both firmly in the &quot;live together before marriage&quot; camp. Just food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John: I can at least one situation where a couple would be living together before meeting the woman&#8217;s parents. They might be in another city (or even another continent) and fairly far along in their relationship, but for whatever reason haven&#8217;t been able to go back to her hometown.</p>
<p>As a general rule, I strongly believe in living together before marriage. There&#8217;s simply no other way of knowing whether your living habits are compatible. Why find that out AFTER you get married and it&#8217;s so much harder to separate if you realize things aren&#8217;t working out because you like staying up until 4 am while she wants to wake up at 7 am? Or because one of you is a neat freak and the other&#8217;s a slob?</p>
<p>This autumn, I will be moving in with my boyfriend of two years, with both my parents&#8217; blessing. They are both firmly in the &#8220;live together before marriage&#8221; camp. Just food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Dancelot</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/07/15/meet-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-36358</link>
		<dc:creator>Dancelot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is only half of the purpose of meeting the parents. Of course you want to leave a good impression, BUT just as important as that, you want to find out what kind of folks her parents are. They too must leave a good impression on you, if they are to be in your life in the future (as in-laws). Most significantly, how they behave, how they treat each other, how they manage their marriage etc. are great indicators of how your girlfriend will be like as a wife. Don&#039;t get too caught up in trying to impress them and forget to take notes. If there&#039;s any pressure on you to be at the top of your game, there is just as much pressure on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is only half of the purpose of meeting the parents. Of course you want to leave a good impression, BUT just as important as that, you want to find out what kind of folks her parents are. They too must leave a good impression on you, if they are to be in your life in the future (as in-laws). Most significantly, how they behave, how they treat each other, how they manage their marriage etc. are great indicators of how your girlfriend will be like as a wife. Don&#8217;t get too caught up in trying to impress them and forget to take notes. If there&#8217;s any pressure on you to be at the top of your game, there is just as much pressure on them.</p>
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		<title>By: t.h.williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>t.h.williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I would also recommend doing some research on your girlfriend&#039;s parents by asking your girlfriend appropriate questions that will give you an idea of what you&#039;re getting into. I&#039;ve walked into good homes and crazy homes and it always helps to have even a vague idea of the people you are meeting. As an alternate to flowers, a small gift may be appropriate for a weekend stay. If so, wrap the gift. And make an effort to get some one on one time with her father, regardless of whether you are considering marriage at this point or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I would also recommend doing some research on your girlfriend&#8217;s parents by asking your girlfriend appropriate questions that will give you an idea of what you&#8217;re getting into. I&#8217;ve walked into good homes and crazy homes and it always helps to have even a vague idea of the people you are meeting. As an alternate to flowers, a small gift may be appropriate for a weekend stay. If so, wrap the gift. And make an effort to get some one on one time with her father, regardless of whether you are considering marriage at this point or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brett - Thank you, sir. I believe any good man would have done the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brett &#8211; Thank you, sir. I believe any good man would have done the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think men realize how important it is to meet a girlfriend&#039;s parents! First impressions are so key because it is so difficult to date a guy who&#039;s parents do not like &lt;a href=&quot;http://sowhatnow.com/?utm_source=media&amp;utm_medium=bc&amp;utm_campaign=jun&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;him&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think men realize how important it is to meet a girlfriend&#8217;s parents! First impressions are so key because it is so difficult to date a guy who&#8217;s parents do not like <a href="http://sowhatnow.com/?utm_source=media&amp;utm_medium=bc&amp;utm_campaign=jun" rel="nofollow">him</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CoffeeZombie-

I guess what I meant is that it&#039;s hard for me to imagine that doing stuff like shaking hands well, looking people in the eye, and saying &quot;You have a nice house!&quot; could come off as artificial and weird. I think those kinds of things are somewhat easy to turn on when you need to. But I&#039;m obviously taking a very narrow view as a guy raised to be polite. And people who have never done it might well come off badly if they suddenly tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CoffeeZombie-</p>
<p>I guess what I meant is that it&#8217;s hard for me to imagine that doing stuff like shaking hands well, looking people in the eye, and saying &#8220;You have a nice house!&#8221; could come off as artificial and weird. I think those kinds of things are somewhat easy to turn on when you need to. But I&#8217;m obviously taking a very narrow view as a guy raised to be polite. And people who have never done it might well come off badly if they suddenly tried.</p>
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		<title>By: CoffeeZombie</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoffeeZombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brett If it&#039;s hard for you to imagine politeness not coming naturally to a man, you must not know very many men. Or you keep very good company.

Then again, I&#039;m a Southerner in transplant country (i.e., I live in an area of the South where a large portion of the population is made up of Yanks and others who have &lt;strike&gt;invaded&lt;/strike&gt; moved in from elsewhere), so perhaps I see more rudeness where everyone else might see politeness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brett If it&#8217;s hard for you to imagine politeness not coming naturally to a man, you must not know very many men. Or you keep very good company.</p>
<p>Then again, I&#8217;m a Southerner in transplant country (i.e., I live in an area of the South where a large portion of the population is made up of Yanks and others who have <strike>invaded</strike> moved in from elsewhere), so perhaps I see more rudeness where everyone else might see politeness.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CoffeeZombie-Good comments. I guess it&#039;s hard for me to imagine that being polite wouldn&#039;t come naturally to a man, but some gents probably do need practice so it comes off smoothly. 

@Michael-Did calling your in-laws &quot;mom&quot; and &quot;dad&quot; come naturally? My mother-in-law told me I could call her mom, but it seems strange to me. What do all of you out there call your in-laws: first names? Mr. and Mrs?

@Tyler-Awesome, awesome story. 1500 man points right there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CoffeeZombie-Good comments. I guess it&#8217;s hard for me to imagine that being polite wouldn&#8217;t come naturally to a man, but some gents probably do need practice so it comes off smoothly. </p>
<p>@Michael-Did calling your in-laws &#8220;mom&#8221; and &#8220;dad&#8221; come naturally? My mother-in-law told me I could call her mom, but it seems strange to me. What do all of you out there call your in-laws: first names? Mr. and Mrs?</p>
<p>@Tyler-Awesome, awesome story. 1500 man points right there.</p>
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