Comments on: 30 Days to a Better Man Day 10: Memorize “If” http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/09/30-days-to-a-better-man-day-10-memorize-if/ Men's Interests and Lifestyle Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:41:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mad Skills: Borrowing from your Playbook | The Better Man http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/09/30-days-to-a-better-man-day-10-memorize-if/comment-page-1/#comment-101469 Mad Skills: Borrowing from your Playbook | The Better Man Thu, 13 May 2010 11:03:17 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=3405#comment-101469 [...]  I’ve Memorized “If” by Rudyard Kipling (actually stole this idea from Brett and Kate at Art of Manliness – thanks guys!). I wish I could tell you that I [...] [...]  I’ve Memorized “If” by Rudyard Kipling (actually stole this idea from Brett and Kate at Art of Manliness – thanks guys!). I wish I could tell you that I [...]

]]> By: 30 Day Challenge: Day 10 - www.Lou-Davis.com http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/09/30-days-to-a-better-man-day-10-memorize-if/comment-page-1/#comment-101258 30 Day Challenge: Day 10 - www.Lou-Davis.com Tue, 11 May 2010 15:01:08 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=3405#comment-101258 [...] admit that I was not familiar with this poem until reading the Art of Manliness blog. I like the poem, and I think that there is something to be said for memorizing something like [...] [...] admit that I was not familiar with this poem until reading the Art of Manliness blog. I like the poem, and I think that there is something to be said for memorizing something like [...]

]]> By: ari-free http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/09/30-days-to-a-better-man-day-10-memorize-if/comment-page-1/#comment-99788 ari-free Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:29:14 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=3405#comment-99788 Quintillian: However, if anyone asks me what is the one supreme method of memory, I shall reply, practice and industry. The most important thing is to learn much by heart and to think much, and, if possible, to do this daily, since there is nothing that is more increased by practice or impaired by neglect than memory. Therefore boys should, as I have already urged, learn as much as possible by heart at the earliest stage, while all who, whatever their age, desire to cultivate the power of memory, should endeavour to swallow the initial tedium of reading and re-reading what they have written or read, a process which we may compare to chewing the cud. This task will be rendered less tiresome if we begin by confining ourselves to learning only a little at a time, in amounts not sufficient to create disgust: we may then proceed to increase the amount by a line a day, an addition which will not sensibly increase the labour of learning, until at last the amount we can attack will know no limits. We should begin with poetry and then go on to oratory, while finally we may attempt passages still freer in rhythm and less akin to ordinary speech, such, for example, as passages from legal writers. For passages intended as an exercise should be somewhat difficult in character if they are to make it easy to achieve the end for which the exercise is designed; just as athletes train the muscles of their hands by carrying weights of lead, although in the actual contests their hands will be empty and free. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Quintilian/Institutio_Oratoria/11B*.html#2 Quintillian: However, if anyone asks me what is the one supreme method of memory, I shall reply, practice and industry. The most important thing is to learn much by heart and to think much, and, if possible, to do this daily, since there is nothing that is more increased by practice or impaired by neglect than memory. Therefore boys should, as I have already urged, learn as much as possible by heart at the earliest stage, while all who, whatever their age, desire to cultivate the power of memory, should endeavour to swallow the initial tedium of reading and re-reading what they have written or read, a process which we may compare to chewing the cud. This task will be rendered less tiresome if we begin by confining ourselves to learning only a little at a time, in amounts not sufficient to create disgust: we may then proceed to increase the amount by a line a day, an addition which will not sensibly increase the labour of learning, until at last the amount we can attack will know no limits. We should begin with poetry and then go on to oratory, while finally we may attempt passages still freer in rhythm and less akin to ordinary speech, such, for example, as passages from legal writers. For passages intended as an exercise should be somewhat difficult in character if they are to make it easy to achieve the end for which the exercise is designed; just as athletes train the muscles of their hands by carrying weights of lead, although in the actual contests their hands will be empty and free.

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]]> By: ARKANSAS: Like Kansas, but with Pirates | The Better Man http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/09/30-days-to-a-better-man-day-10-memorize-if/comment-page-1/#comment-98764 ARKANSAS: Like Kansas, but with Pirates | The Better Man Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:35:04 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=3405#comment-98764 [...] outcome more than another but I can accept it, regardless of what it may be.  If I’ve read my Kipling right, that is an important quality in being a Better [...] [...] outcome more than another but I can accept it, regardless of what it may be.  If I’ve read my Kipling right, that is an important quality in being a Better [...]

]]> By: Kenneth B http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/09/30-days-to-a-better-man-day-10-memorize-if/comment-page-1/#comment-98097 Kenneth B Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:16:08 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=3405#comment-98097 Amazing poem, and although I've forgotten most of it (which I will remedy!) I don't regret memorizing it one bit. Although, with regards to memorizing in general, I believe that there is a time for it and a time for it not. Great works of poetry, vocabulary and so on, I can imagine memorization is a great idea -- all the points you rose were great. When it comes to deriving knowledge, like math, I think it's more important to practice the derivations or the relationships between equations than simply just memorizing them and plugging in numbers -- that way, no matter how tough it is, you'd eventually understand the way certain equations came to be (physics is one of my favorite subjects, so bear with me...) Also, it's one thing to recite facts, and another to critically analyze them. I could memorize all these speeches and historical dates but not be able to weigh their origin, value, or purpose in a critical manner. Amazing poem, and although I’ve forgotten most of it (which I will remedy!) I don’t regret memorizing it one bit.

Although, with regards to memorizing in general, I believe that there is a time for it and a time for it not. Great works of poetry, vocabulary and so on, I can imagine memorization is a great idea — all the points you rose were great. When it comes to deriving knowledge, like math, I think it’s more important to practice the derivations or the relationships between equations than simply just memorizing them and plugging in numbers — that way, no matter how tough it is, you’d eventually understand the way certain equations came to be (physics is one of my favorite subjects, so bear with me…)

Also, it’s one thing to recite facts, and another to critically analyze them. I could memorize all these speeches and historical dates but not be able to weigh their origin, value, or purpose in a critical manner.

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