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> <channel><title>Comments on: Dressing for the Kentucky Derby</title> <atom:link href="http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/</link> <description>Men&#039;s Interests and Lifestyle</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:05:15 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Chris</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-52514</link> <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:59:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-52514</guid> <description>Wow. The lack of respect for tradition. I know it&#039;s an American thing, to reinvent the wheel every generation, but not respecting something that is valued by many others just to &quot;express your individuality&quot; is just plain rude. But then again recognizing when one is rude requires that one has manners in the first place. Manners dictates you dress appropriately for the event you are attending. Thank God for my Grandmother who refused to believe good manners should be relegated to history...like these gentlemen think should happen with Derby tradition. I would love to attend the Kentucky Derby someday and dress up for it. Saying it&#039;s just a horse race belittles the long history and tradition that go with it. The Queen of England attended the races a few years back. That&#039;s the thing. We wanted this derby to rival the big ones in England, Australia, etc. Well those races have a dress code too and it sure ain&#039;t jeans and a t-shirt. Tradition is not something that need be stifling, but you can express your individuality within its bounds quite easily. It&#039;s just plain rude and lazy to refuse to do so.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The lack of respect for tradition. I know it&#8217;s an American thing, to reinvent the wheel every generation, but not respecting something that is valued by many others just to &#8220;express your individuality&#8221; is just plain rude. But then again recognizing when one is rude requires that one has manners in the first place. Manners dictates you dress appropriately for the event you are attending. Thank God for my Grandmother who refused to believe good manners should be relegated to history&#8230;like these gentlemen think should happen with Derby tradition. I would love to attend the Kentucky Derby someday and dress up for it. Saying it&#8217;s just a horse race belittles the long history and tradition that go with it. The Queen of England attended the races a few years back. That&#8217;s the thing. We wanted this derby to rival the big ones in England, Australia, etc. Well those races have a dress code too and it sure ain&#8217;t jeans and a t-shirt. Tradition is not something that need be stifling, but you can express your individuality within its bounds quite easily. It&#8217;s just plain rude and lazy to refuse to do so.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike at The Big Stick</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-37166</link> <dc:creator>Mike at The Big Stick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:50:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-37166</guid> <description>Unfortunately i missed this post back in April, but I can&#039;t resist commenting now...I&#039;ve lived in Louisville for all of my 34 years and I&#039;ve attended the Derby probably a dozen times. Here&#039;s my two cents:I agree that if you are doing the Infield then you should just dress comfortably, wear sunscreen and try to not drink yourself into the hospital.For the grandstands there is no &#039;required dress&#039; but the local logic is that the closer you are to the center of the grandstands, the nicer you should dress. Derby tickets aren&#039;t cheap and it seems pretty silly to pay all that money and not get the full experience. And the dress is part of the experience. We have seats every year on the far end of the grandstands. In that section it&#039;s a mixed bag. I see people in shorts and polos and people in three-piece suits. As you get closer to the center where all the owners are, most men wear a suit or a blazer and tie.As a Southern man I prefer the blazer and contrasting pants to a suit most of the time. One thing about Derby is that &#039;loud&#039; or extremely colorful blazers are encouraged. I have one searsucker and one madras plaid blazer that I rotate for the Derby and that&#039;s pretty much the only thing I wear them to (the searsucker is appropriate for church in the spring). Also, loud ties are a regular sight, usually with a horse/racing theme. Hats are becoming more common among the men. Mostly straw fedoras that aren&#039;t too hot (the weather for Derby can range from the 40&#039;s to high 80&#039;s depending on the year).All of the comments about being unique, etc are pretty silly IMO. For the Kentucky Derby the dress is a big part of the experience. Stand there in a good outfit, sing My Old Kentucky Home with 200,000 other people and tell me it&#039;s not a moving experience. We&#039;ve had friends in town for the Derby many times and they all say they are glad they went for the more formal attire. It&#039;s sort of like if I ran with bulls in Spain I would wear the typical garb for that. You&#039;ve got 364 other days to be &#039;unique&#039;. But respecting tradition is about being a part of something...not deliberately ignoring it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately i missed this post back in April, but I can&#8217;t resist commenting now&#8230;</p><p>I&#8217;ve lived in Louisville for all of my 34 years and I&#8217;ve attended the Derby probably a dozen times. Here&#8217;s my two cents:</p><p>I agree that if you are doing the Infield then you should just dress comfortably, wear sunscreen and try to not drink yourself into the hospital.</p><p>For the grandstands there is no &#8216;required dress&#8217; but the local logic is that the closer you are to the center of the grandstands, the nicer you should dress. Derby tickets aren&#8217;t cheap and it seems pretty silly to pay all that money and not get the full experience. And the dress is part of the experience. We have seats every year on the far end of the grandstands. In that section it&#8217;s a mixed bag. I see people in shorts and polos and people in three-piece suits. As you get closer to the center where all the owners are, most men wear a suit or a blazer and tie.</p><p>As a Southern man I prefer the blazer and contrasting pants to a suit most of the time. One thing about Derby is that &#8216;loud&#8217; or extremely colorful blazers are encouraged. I have one searsucker and one madras plaid blazer that I rotate for the Derby and that&#8217;s pretty much the only thing I wear them to (the searsucker is appropriate for church in the spring). Also, loud ties are a regular sight, usually with a horse/racing theme. Hats are becoming more common among the men. Mostly straw fedoras that aren&#8217;t too hot (the weather for Derby can range from the 40&#8217;s to high 80&#8217;s depending on the year).</p><p>All of the comments about being unique, etc are pretty silly IMO. For the Kentucky Derby the dress is a big part of the experience. Stand there in a good outfit, sing My Old Kentucky Home with 200,000 other people and tell me it&#8217;s not a moving experience. We&#8217;ve had friends in town for the Derby many times and they all say they are glad they went for the more formal attire. It&#8217;s sort of like if I ran with bulls in Spain I would wear the typical garb for that. You&#8217;ve got 364 other days to be &#8216;unique&#8217;. But respecting tradition is about being a part of something&#8230;not deliberately ignoring it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ryan</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-29038</link> <dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 04:01:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-29038</guid> <description>Horatio, I second that, anyone know who makes those shoes?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horatio, I second that, anyone know who makes those shoes?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: utbna98</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26337</link> <dc:creator>utbna98</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:10:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26337</guid> <description>I guess you can wear whatever you want in some places at the track.  But one reason some people wear a sport coat and slacks is that the doorman won&#039;t let you in if you are wearing anything else.  So, wear jeans and a t shirt and show your individuality, but you won&#039;t do it upstairs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you can wear whatever you want in some places at the track.  But one reason some people wear a sport coat and slacks is that the doorman won&#8217;t let you in if you are wearing anything else.  So, wear jeans and a t shirt and show your individuality, but you won&#8217;t do it upstairs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cowboy Bob</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26285</link> <dc:creator>Cowboy Bob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 00:30:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26285</guid> <description>Sorry, Jones, I do not equate a horse race with a wedding. If the wedding is a standard, traditional affair, I&#039;m going to follow along. But some weddings show the individuality of the bride and groom, and I may have to dress in a manner that I consider inappropriate to the solemnity of the occasion.But you want me to &quot;help contribute to the ambiance and experience shared by everyone&quot;. It&#039;s a friggin&#039; horse race, for crying out loud! I&#039;m not going to buy a set of clothing for two minutes of racing, plus gambling and boozing before and after.&quot;These days, individuality has come to mean doing your own thing and not caring about others.&quot; Those kinds of &quot;individuals&quot; are irresponsible, immature school kids. Or at least have that mentality. True, manly individuality shows respect for people and the occasions that deserve it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Jones, I do not equate a horse race with a wedding. If the wedding is a standard, traditional affair, I&#8217;m going to follow along. But some weddings show the individuality of the bride and groom, and I may have to dress in a manner that I consider inappropriate to the solemnity of the occasion.</p><p>But you want me to &#8220;help contribute to the ambiance and experience shared by everyone&#8221;. It&#8217;s a friggin&#8217; horse race, for crying out loud! I&#8217;m not going to buy a set of clothing for two minutes of racing, plus gambling and boozing before and after.</p><p>&#8220;These days, individuality has come to mean doing your own thing and not caring about others.&#8221; Those kinds of &#8220;individuals&#8221; are irresponsible, immature school kids. Or at least have that mentality. True, manly individuality shows respect for people and the occasions that deserve it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Horatio</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26198</link> <dc:creator>Horatio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 06:24:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26198</guid> <description>By the way, who makes those wonderful spectators featured in this article?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, who makes those wonderful spectators featured in this article?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Horatio</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26197</link> <dc:creator>Horatio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 06:22:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26197</guid> <description>Cowboy Bob said,&quot;It&#039;s all about me me &lt;b&gt;me&lt;/b&gt;!&quot;I might have paraphrased a little.Other commenters have said, in their own ways, what the fine movie &quot;Blast from the Past&quot; pointed out: &quot;good manners are just a way of showing other people we have respect for them.&quot; That movie is also the source of something else we should always bear in mind: the &quot;short and simple definition of a lady or a gentleman is, someone who always tries to make sure the people around him or her are as comfortable as possible.&quot;See, Cowboy Bob, by dressing appropriately for a situation, we are showing respect for them and their traditions. By dressing appropriately, we are making other comfortable. I don&#039;t pretend to be something I&#039;m not, and so I don&#039;t wear cowboy boots and cowboy hats. However, if I were to go to an event where that was the appropriate garb, then I would either refrain from going or respect that tradition and dress that way. It&#039;s only showing others the kind of consideration they deserve, and the kind of consideration I would like them to show me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowboy Bob said,</p><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s all about me me <b>me</b>!&#8221;</p><p>I might have paraphrased a little.</p><p>Other commenters have said, in their own ways, what the fine movie &#8220;Blast from the Past&#8221; pointed out: &#8220;good manners are just a way of showing other people we have respect for them.&#8221; That movie is also the source of something else we should always bear in mind: the &#8220;short and simple definition of a lady or a gentleman is, someone who always tries to make sure the people around him or her are as comfortable as possible.&#8221;</p><p>See, Cowboy Bob, by dressing appropriately for a situation, we are showing respect for them and their traditions. By dressing appropriately, we are making other comfortable. I don&#8217;t pretend to be something I&#8217;m not, and so I don&#8217;t wear cowboy boots and cowboy hats. However, if I were to go to an event where that was the appropriate garb, then I would either refrain from going or respect that tradition and dress that way. It&#8217;s only showing others the kind of consideration they deserve, and the kind of consideration I would like them to show me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Justin Luddington</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26160</link> <dc:creator>Justin Luddington</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:40:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26160</guid> <description>Well said, Jones. How you dress should have more to do with the respect you show others than yourself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Jones. How you dress should have more to do with the respect you show others than yourself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cyber5</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26158</link> <dc:creator>cyber5</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:26:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26158</guid> <description>Since I have never attended the derby in person and usually watch it from the track in Phoenix or a casino in Vegas, I tend to break these rules. However, I do respect the Derby and the sport of horse racing itself. On a typical raceday I&#039;ll wear any one of my Race related Tees and jeans - but on Derby day I usually opt for a trouser sportcoat look. This year will probably be khaki trousers and a white sport coat.I think Bob and Rob up there need to understand this is 135 years of tradition, not conformity.I have always asked my girl to come along to experience the thrilling 2 minutes that is the Derby - provided she wears a hat. For the last few years, I have invited my friends to join me at a table in the clubhouse - once again, Hat IS Required for all females.During the day my cohorts can order any damned thing they like to drink - but EVERYONE drinks at least one julep first. Bourbon and mint...mmmm....what else do u want outta life - besides hitting the tri to pay for the day at the track?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I have never attended the derby in person and usually watch it from the track in Phoenix or a casino in Vegas, I tend to break these rules. However, I do respect the Derby and the sport of horse racing itself. On a typical raceday I&#8217;ll wear any one of my Race related Tees and jeans &#8211; but on Derby day I usually opt for a trouser sportcoat look. This year will probably be khaki trousers and a white sport coat.</p><p>I think Bob and Rob up there need to understand this is 135 years of tradition, not conformity.</p><p>I have always asked my girl to come along to experience the thrilling 2 minutes that is the Derby &#8211; provided she wears a hat. For the last few years, I have invited my friends to join me at a table in the clubhouse &#8211; once again, Hat IS Required for all females.</p><p>During the day my cohorts can order any damned thing they like to drink &#8211; but EVERYONE drinks at least one julep first. Bourbon and mint&#8230;mmmm&#8230;.what else do u want outta life &#8211; besides hitting the tri to pay for the day at the track?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jones</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26152</link> <dc:creator>Jones</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:58:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26152</guid> <description>Bob-The fact that you would view dressing for an event as tradition dictates as &quot;caving in&quot; says a lot about the disrespect men have for others in this day and age. If a wedding is a black tie affair, you dress in black tie. If the event is a cowboy square dance, you don&#039;t dress in black tie, do you? So if the event calls for old fashioned southern style, you dress in old fashioned southern style. These days, individuality has come to mean doing your own thing and not caring about others. A gentleman can be his own person, while respecting others at the same time. By dressing in a certain way for an event, you help contribute to the ambiance and experience shared by everyone.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob-</p><p>The fact that you would view dressing for an event as tradition dictates as &#8220;caving in&#8221; says a lot about the disrespect men have for others in this day and age. If a wedding is a black tie affair, you dress in black tie. If the event is a cowboy square dance, you don&#8217;t dress in black tie, do you? So if the event calls for old fashioned southern style, you dress in old fashioned southern style. These days, individuality has come to mean doing your own thing and not caring about others. A gentleman can be his own person, while respecting others at the same time. By dressing in a certain way for an event, you help contribute to the ambiance and experience shared by everyone.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cowboy Bob</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26150</link> <dc:creator>Cowboy Bob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:13:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26150</guid> <description>I tend to agree with Rob, that it&#039;s silly to dress in that particular fashion for that event. Jones is being heavy handed because Rob did not say anything about jeans and a t-shirt, and Rob seems to support suspending individuality, and even caving in &quot;as the tradition of the event dictates&quot;. That means, to me, that if I&#039;m not going to dress in that particular style, I either cannot attend or I&#039;m a jackass if I do something different.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Rob, that it&#8217;s silly to dress in that particular fashion for that event. Jones is being heavy handed because Rob did not say anything about jeans and a t-shirt, and Rob seems to support suspending individuality, and even caving in &#8220;as the tradition of the event dictates&#8221;. That means, to me, that if I&#8217;m not going to dress in that particular style, I either cannot attend or I&#8217;m a jackass if I do something different.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jones</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26147</link> <dc:creator>Jones</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:15:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26147</guid> <description>Rob-
I suppose you&#039;ve never been to the Kentucky Derby, but this is actually how people dress at the present day derby-in hats, trousers, and sports coats. It&#039;s not fetishizing the past to dress as the tradition of the event dictates. You could show up in jeans and a t-shirt to watch, but that&#039;s not being an individual, that&#039;s just being a jackass.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob-<br
/> I suppose you&#8217;ve never been to the Kentucky Derby, but this is actually how people dress at the present day derby-in hats, trousers, and sports coats. It&#8217;s not fetishizing the past to dress as the tradition of the event dictates. You could show up in jeans and a t-shirt to watch, but that&#8217;s not being an individual, that&#8217;s just being a jackass.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26142</link> <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26142</guid> <description>Yet another article that fetishizes the past instead of promoting individuality and independence, virtues that men *should* live up to. Dressing up like it&#039;s the &#039;40s is just as silly as emo kids dressing up like vampires or hipsters dressing up like lumberjacks.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another article that fetishizes the past instead of promoting individuality and independence, virtues that men *should* live up to. Dressing up like it&#8217;s the &#8217;40s is just as silly as emo kids dressing up like vampires or hipsters dressing up like lumberjacks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JC</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26126</link> <dc:creator>JC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:57:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26126</guid> <description>You forgot the classic - seersucker.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot the classic &#8211; seersucker.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jacoba</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/28/kentucky_derby_style/#comment-26122</link> <dc:creator>Jacoba</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:16:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=2769#comment-26122</guid> <description>I&#039;m a straight woman and actually subscribe to your online mag - at first because of the whisky article which I considered to be excellent,  so much so that I put you on my site as a favourite read, but lately I have found the articles to be very insightful, well written and thoroughly enjoyable.Thanks for teaching me to understand how the other half ticks - and thank God you aren&#039;t all as shallow as I thought! ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a straight woman and actually subscribe to your online mag &#8211; at first because of the whisky article which I considered to be excellent,  so much so that I put you on my site as a favourite read, but lately I have found the articles to be very insightful, well written and thoroughly enjoyable.</p><p>Thanks for teaching me to understand how the other half ticks &#8211; and thank God you aren&#8217;t all as shallow as I thought! <img
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