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> <channel><title>Comments on: Developing Manly Courage</title> <atom:link href="http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/</link> <description>Men&#039;s Interests and Lifestyle</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:26:08 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: James</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-96824</link> <dc:creator>James</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-96824</guid> <description>Perhaps this can provide a better definition of courage?
http://www.authentichappiness.sas.upenn.edu/newsletter.aspx?id=66For these psychologists, they break down courage into 4 partsbravery
persistence
integrity
vitalityThe total 6 main virtues are wisdom, courage, humanity, justice, temperance, transcendence. Goes in line with virtue ethics, in contrast to deontology or consequentialism. Also, some fundamental understanding of existential philosophy helps a great deal.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this can provide a better definition of courage?<br
/> <a
href="http://www.authentichappiness.sas.upenn.edu/newsletter.aspx?id=66" rel="nofollow">http://www.authentichappiness.sas.upenn.edu/newsletter.aspx?id=66</a></p><p>For these psychologists, they break down courage into 4 parts</p><p>bravery<br
/> persistence<br
/> integrity<br
/> vitality</p><p>The total 6 main virtues are wisdom, courage, humanity, justice, temperance, transcendence. Goes in line with virtue ethics, in contrast to deontology or consequentialism. Also, some fundamental understanding of existential philosophy helps a great deal.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Carl Muthman</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-34511</link> <dc:creator>Carl Muthman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:20:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-34511</guid> <description>From what I understand fear is one of those primal instincts all creatures have, but as humans we have have intelligence and can learn to deal with those instincts/feelings. In my own personal journey, I believe that with experiences and gaining knowledge, courage can be developed. It requires trips outside the &quot;comfort zone&quot; and some effort into into getting that information.
Fear occurs naturally but courage has to be and can be learned.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand fear is one of those primal instincts all creatures have, but as humans we have have intelligence and can learn to deal with those instincts/feelings. In my own personal journey, I believe that with experiences and gaining knowledge, courage can be developed. It requires trips outside the &#8220;comfort zone&#8221; and some effort into into getting that information.<br
/> Fear occurs naturally but courage has to be and can be learned.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rudi</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-23720</link> <dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:30:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-23720</guid> <description>Courage is not the absence of fear.
Courage is the decision to act
INSPITE OF fear.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courage is not the absence of fear.<br
/> Courage is the decision to act<br
/> INSPITE OF fear.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Mailman</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22768</link> <dc:creator>Mike Mailman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:37:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22768</guid> <description>@ Klemanius-I know what you mean.In this day and age, where do we have an opportunity to express our courage? Life is for the most part molly coddled and easy. Intellectual courage? You need to have an original idea to defend. Physical courage? Someone has to attack you, or another, before that can be displayed. Moral courage? That is perhaps the easiest courage to display today.But with moral courage, you need absolute certainty that you are in the right. Certainty you may not have except in retrospect. In those circumstances, courage is only recklessness, my take is that courage without knowledge is recklessness.One has to find a place in life which will allow them to express courage within any of these spheres. It will not come to those which do not seek it out. Life is too easy these days.Mike Mailman</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Klemanius-</p><p>I know what you mean.</p><p>In this day and age, where do we have an opportunity to express our courage? Life is for the most part molly coddled and easy. Intellectual courage? You need to have an original idea to defend. Physical courage? Someone has to attack you, or another, before that can be displayed. Moral courage? That is perhaps the easiest courage to display today.</p><p>But with moral courage, you need absolute certainty that you are in the right. Certainty you may not have except in retrospect. In those circumstances, courage is only recklessness, my take is that courage without knowledge is recklessness.</p><p>One has to find a place in life which will allow them to express courage within any of these spheres. It will not come to those which do not seek it out. Life is too easy these days.</p><p>Mike Mailman</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Philosopher</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22732</link> <dc:creator>The Philosopher</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:16:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22732</guid> <description>Great work. This is a commendable article.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work. This is a commendable article.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Guilherme</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22648</link> <dc:creator>Guilherme</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22648</guid> <description>I LOVE THIS BLOG!Every time i feel a little down, just a visit here makes me cheer up.Keep up with the good work guys!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE THIS BLOG!</p><p>Every time i feel a little down, just a visit here makes me cheer up.</p><p> Keep up with the good work guys!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Spida Hunter</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22603</link> <dc:creator>Spida Hunter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:26:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22603</guid> <description>First time to site and what a read, awesome thanks for that! You have put words to &quot;thoughts&quot;, that have been &#039;sitting&#039; in me.Thanks heaps,</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First time to site and what a read, awesome thanks for that! You have put words to &#8220;thoughts&#8221;, that have been &#8217;sitting&#8217; in me.</p><p>Thanks heaps,</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hannibal</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22601</link> <dc:creator>hannibal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:53:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22601</guid> <description>but when you are on that edge between recklessness and courage, how will you know it&#039;s not just fear holding you back, and to just do it. I&#039;m asking as someone who can&#039;t tell if I&#039;m being reckless or not. The courage idea must be only a personal one, because the guidelines are contradictory to other guidelines. For example, is going to Grad school, and taking out another twenty thousand dollars or more of loans courageous or reckless? consider that you already have $80,000 worth of loans, and a monthly loan payment of $1000. Say you want this education for a job that won&#039;t be so certain, like Gerard Butler&#039;s. Now the other guideline states courageousness is putting off self interest. So isn&#039;t staying at a job you hate and enduring just as courageous? Contradictions. Courageousness must then come from reflecting on decisions and deciding that they were courageous.Had Gerard Butler had a wife and kids to care for, then his decision would have been reckless and not courageous.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but when you are on that edge between recklessness and courage, how will you know it&#8217;s not just fear holding you back, and to just do it. I&#8217;m asking as someone who can&#8217;t tell if I&#8217;m being reckless or not. The courage idea must be only a personal one, because the guidelines are contradictory to other guidelines. For example, is going to Grad school, and taking out another twenty thousand dollars or more of loans courageous or reckless? consider that you already have $80,000 worth of loans, and a monthly loan payment of $1000. Say you want this education for a job that won&#8217;t be so certain, like Gerard Butler&#8217;s. Now the other guideline states courageousness is putting off self interest. So isn&#8217;t staying at a job you hate and enduring just as courageous? Contradictions. Courageousness must then come from reflecting on decisions and deciding that they were courageous.</p><p>Had Gerard Butler had a wife and kids to care for, then his decision would have been reckless and not courageous.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Klemanius</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22597</link> <dc:creator>Klemanius</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:07:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22597</guid> <description>on the topic of intellectual courage, I find it often difficult to find an outlet for intellectual discussion, how can we develop intellectual courage if there is no opportunity to display it? It seems we live in a world were it is taboo to talk on enlightened, intellectual subjects such as politics, economics, philosophy or religion.  In the industrial and inquisitive 17-19th centuries Europe saw the rise of the Salon and the club, places were men could go to and discus topics of intellectual importance, yet today there are no common outlets to allow for enlightened and serious conversation.  It seems sad to me that not only do we live in a world were we do not even have the opportunity to regularly challenge our own ideas but were many do not bother to form ideas at all.
It seems ironic that in an age were science is king, we are devoid of thought.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the topic of intellectual courage, I find it often difficult to find an outlet for intellectual discussion, how can we develop intellectual courage if there is no opportunity to display it? It seems we live in a world were it is taboo to talk on enlightened, intellectual subjects such as politics, economics, philosophy or religion.  In the industrial and inquisitive 17-19th centuries Europe saw the rise of the Salon and the club, places were men could go to and discus topics of intellectual importance, yet today there are no common outlets to allow for enlightened and serious conversation.  It seems sad to me that not only do we live in a world were we do not even have the opportunity to regularly challenge our own ideas but were many do not bother to form ideas at all.<br
/> It seems ironic that in an age were science is king, we are devoid of thought.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RagTagRebel</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22593</link> <dc:creator>RagTagRebel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:44:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22593</guid> <description>The courage to be great, that&#039;s exactly something I&#039;ve needed to read for a loooonnngg time. Thanks for the post.As far as taking steps to be more courageous overall, why not make an effort to become totally honest with what you are thinking and feeling with everyone, all the time.That doesn&#039;t mean you have to be insulting and rude, you can plead the 5th whenever you don&#039;t want to respond to someone (you could be honest still and say &quot;honestly I don&#039;t want to answer that question/give my opinion&quot; for ex.) , but always be honest with what you want and never lie or put up a false front.I know so many guys that lie over really stupid things, and the more I see it the sadder it gets. It shocks me how guys lie to wives or g/f&#039;s about their smoking habits, or where they are at the moment (often at normal places like a bar, or stopping somewhere after work). It&#039;s just crazy!It takes a lot courage to be completely honest with yourself and everyone else, and I think its one of the best places to start. But I&#039;ve seen it really change things...I once approached this beautiful Portuguese girl in a club and said to her &quot;Hey I think you&#039;re stunning and I really want to say something cool, but I&#039;m too nervous because your beauty intimidates me&quot;Her response was priceless!She basically said that was really flattered and never heard anything like that before. She told me she was already seeing someone, but &quot;you&#039;ve got balls!&quot; Even my friends looking from a distance could tell she was really excited. I didn&#039;t pursue her from then on, but I was told throughout the night from then on she was looking at me a lot (looking excited).It changed my perspective forever. All I did was just say what i was thinking, totally honest and upfront, but my emotions were going off like a fire alarm! But I believed it was the right thing to do and my fears were not going to stop me.  Since then life has become much richer relationship-wise (and in other ways too). Seems like the truth will set you free.I thought about what Batman said at the end of the Dark Knight, that &quot;Sometimes, truth isn&#039;t good enough. Sometimes, people deserve more. Sometimes, people deserve to have their faith rewarded&quot;I think he&#039;s wrong about that. Instead I say...At all times, the truth is the good enough. People deserve more of it, and in time, our faith in the truth will be rewarded.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The courage to be great, that&#8217;s exactly something I&#8217;ve needed to read for a loooonnngg time. Thanks for the post.</p><p>As far as taking steps to be more courageous overall, why not make an effort to become totally honest with what you are thinking and feeling with everyone, all the time.</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t mean you have to be insulting and rude, you can plead the 5th whenever you don&#8217;t want to respond to someone (you could be honest still and say &#8220;honestly I don&#8217;t want to answer that question/give my opinion&#8221; for ex.) , but always be honest with what you want and never lie or put up a false front.</p><p>I know so many guys that lie over really stupid things, and the more I see it the sadder it gets. It shocks me how guys lie to wives or g/f&#8217;s about their smoking habits, or where they are at the moment (often at normal places like a bar, or stopping somewhere after work). It&#8217;s just crazy!</p><p>It takes a lot courage to be completely honest with yourself and everyone else, and I think its one of the best places to start. But I&#8217;ve seen it really change things&#8230;</p><p>I once approached this beautiful Portuguese girl in a club and said to her &#8220;Hey I think you&#8217;re stunning and I really want to say something cool, but I&#8217;m too nervous because your beauty intimidates me&#8221;</p><p>Her response was priceless!</p><p>She basically said that was really flattered and never heard anything like that before. She told me she was already seeing someone, but &#8220;you&#8217;ve got balls!&#8221; Even my friends looking from a distance could tell she was really excited. I didn&#8217;t pursue her from then on, but I was told throughout the night from then on she was looking at me a lot (looking excited).</p><p>It changed my perspective forever. All I did was just say what i was thinking, totally honest and upfront, but my emotions were going off like a fire alarm! But I believed it was the right thing to do and my fears were not going to stop me.  Since then life has become much richer relationship-wise (and in other ways too). Seems like the truth will set you free.</p><p>I thought about what Batman said at the end of the Dark Knight, that &#8220;Sometimes, truth isn&#8217;t good enough. Sometimes, people deserve more. Sometimes, people deserve to have their faith rewarded&#8221;</p><p>I think he&#8217;s wrong about that. Instead I say&#8230;</p><p>At all times, the truth is the good enough. People deserve more of it, and in time, our faith in the truth will be rewarded.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yolanda Garfield</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22587</link> <dc:creator>Yolanda Garfield</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:55:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22587</guid> <description>When you define manhood, do you take into consideration &#039;emotional courage&#039;?  It takes something different to dodge a bullet, and something different to explore real love.   If you don&#039;t know how to throw yourself into being a lover, a father, a husband,  someone who travels through life knowing at the end, you won&#039;t have another chance, are you still a man who possesses courage?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you define manhood, do you take into consideration &#8216;emotional courage&#8217;?  It takes something different to dodge a bullet, and something different to explore real love.   If you don&#8217;t know how to throw yourself into being a lover, a father, a husband,  someone who travels through life knowing at the end, you won&#8217;t have another chance, are you still a man who possesses courage?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: heywo</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22462</link> <dc:creator>heywo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:03:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22462</guid> <description>&quot;I just love the lame industry of â€œcutting downâ€ inspiring individuals, especially when those individuals are (usually) people of color (like MLK)â€¦.&quot;Although I agree it can be disheartening, but while I can&#039;t speak for every circumstance or inspirational leader, more often than not there&#039;s dirt beneath the roses. Just like a few bad things shouldn&#039;t overshadow the good things someone does, a few good things should never overshadow the bad. We should take note, learn from it, and move on.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I just love the lame industry of â€œcutting downâ€ inspiring individuals, especially when those individuals are (usually) people of color (like MLK)â€¦.&#8221;</p><p>Although I agree it can be disheartening, but while I can&#8217;t speak for every circumstance or inspirational leader, more often than not there&#8217;s dirt beneath the roses. Just like a few bad things shouldn&#8217;t overshadow the good things someone does, a few good things should never overshadow the bad. We should take note, learn from it, and move on.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sean</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22453</link> <dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22453</guid> <description>Alex, that is why his name was &quot;Gandhi&quot; and not &quot;Jesus&quot;.he was human being.I just love the lame industry of &quot;cutting down&quot; inspiring individuals, especially when those individuals are (usually) people of color (like MLK)....Its just sad, intellectually lazy and SO derivative it makes the Strokes look like Kathy Acker.its usually lazy, angry, mean spirited white dudes. You know it, I know it.gilrein rules.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, that is why his name was &#8220;Gandhi&#8221; and not &#8220;Jesus&#8221;.</p><p>he was human being.</p><p>I just love the lame industry of &#8220;cutting down&#8221; inspiring individuals, especially when those individuals are (usually) people of color (like MLK)&#8230;.</p><p>Its just sad, intellectually lazy and SO derivative it makes the Strokes look like Kathy Acker.</p><p>its usually lazy, angry, mean spirited white dudes. You know it, I know it.</p><p>gilrein rules.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22452</link> <dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:58:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22452</guid> <description>I&#039;m not sure if I would consider Gandhi the best model for moral courage. When his wife fell mortally ill, he told her not to take the drugs because they were against their religious principles. But when Gandhi contracted the same disease, he turned around and took the meds. At least, that&#039;s what I learned in my history class. It may be apocryphal.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I would consider Gandhi the best model for moral courage. When his wife fell mortally ill, he told her not to take the drugs because they were against their religious principles. But when Gandhi contracted the same disease, he turned around and took the meds. At least, that&#8217;s what I learned in my history class. It may be apocryphal.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rb3m</title><link>http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/08/developing-manly-courage/#comment-22446</link> <dc:creator>rb3m</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:58:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://artofmanliness.com/?p=1652#comment-22446</guid> <description>Excellent post. It must be said, however, that part of courage is knowing when to admit defeat and retreat without shame.Sometimes the odds are against us and instead of rushing headlong into total defeat it&#039;s better to stand back and reconsider the approach.Sometimes it&#039;s simply not worth it, like internet arguments that lead nowhere.And sometimes the other side is right! Hey, it  can happen! It takes a big man to defend an idea, it takes an even bigger man to consider the ideas of others seriously and admit to flaws and shortcomings in our own.@Ned Van Nostrand the fact that modern science can make better observations and thus has corrected and expanded some of Darwin&#039;s theory does not mean he was wrong, or that he wasn&#039;t doing science, or that he wasn&#039;t intellectually courageous, or that his observations have been simply &quot;discounted&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. It must be said, however, that part of courage is knowing when to admit defeat and retreat without shame.</p><p>Sometimes the odds are against us and instead of rushing headlong into total defeat it&#8217;s better to stand back and reconsider the approach.</p><p>Sometimes it&#8217;s simply not worth it, like internet arguments that lead nowhere.</p><p>And sometimes the other side is right! Hey, it  can happen! It takes a big man to defend an idea, it takes an even bigger man to consider the ideas of others seriously and admit to flaws and shortcomings in our own.</p><p>@Ned Van Nostrand the fact that modern science can make better observations and thus has corrected and expanded some of Darwin&#8217;s theory does not mean he was wrong, or that he wasn&#8217;t doing science, or that he wasn&#8217;t intellectually courageous, or that his observations have been simply &#8220;discounted&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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