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		<title>By: AJ Pitchford</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ Pitchford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised only one individual has briefly drawn from this but it is something I learned a number of years ago and have committed to memory. I apologize for the length but I feel numerous maxims can be taken from within his words. 

Robert E. Lee&#039;s Definition of a Gentleman

&quot;The forbearing use of power not only forms  a touchstone, but the manner in which an individual enjoys certain advantages over others is a test of a true gentleman.

The power which the strong have over the weak, the employer over the employed, the educated over the unlettered, the experienced over the confiding, even the clever over the silly--the forbearing or inoffensive use of all this power or authority, or a total abstinence from it when the case admits it, will show the gentleman in a plain light.

The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He cannot only forgive, he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which impart sufficient strength to let the past be but the past. A true man of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others.&quot;

Along with that just a few more I find applicable.

&quot;There is no more dangerous experiment than attempting to be one thing before a man&#039;s face and another behind his back.&quot; -Robert E. Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised only one individual has briefly drawn from this but it is something I learned a number of years ago and have committed to memory. I apologize for the length but I feel numerous maxims can be taken from within his words. </p>
<p>Robert E. Lee&#8217;s Definition of a Gentleman</p>
<p>&#8220;The forbearing use of power not only forms  a touchstone, but the manner in which an individual enjoys certain advantages over others is a test of a true gentleman.</p>
<p>The power which the strong have over the weak, the employer over the employed, the educated over the unlettered, the experienced over the confiding, even the clever over the silly&#8211;the forbearing or inoffensive use of all this power or authority, or a total abstinence from it when the case admits it, will show the gentleman in a plain light.</p>
<p>The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He cannot only forgive, he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which impart sufficient strength to let the past be but the past. A true man of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Along with that just a few more I find applicable.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no more dangerous experiment than attempting to be one thing before a man&#8217;s face and another behind his back.&#8221; -Robert E. Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Warrick Jones</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/10/27/manly-advice-from-robert-e-lee-plus-a-book-giveaway/comment-page-3/#comment-45706</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrick Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I study about Gen Lee and Jackson, the more I try to emulate their  character.  If only more men would try to follow their example. They were real men.

make sure you are right, then go ahead - Davey Crockett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I study about Gen Lee and Jackson, the more I try to emulate their  character.  If only more men would try to follow their example. They were real men.</p>
<p>make sure you are right, then go ahead &#8211; Davey Crockett</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this life there is no substitute for taking responsibilty for yourself.</description>
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		<title>By: Randy N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wise man. Much of what he has to say should is a must read by young men of today!</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Throne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Throne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert E. Lee demonstrated many of the virtues of a manly man, civility, manners, competence, personal bravery, euridition.  Unfortunately he lacked one major manly or gentlemanly virtue.  That a gentleman&#039;s word, once given, remains given.  While not denigrating his military accomplishments, recent scholarship has pointed out that his great achievements were, in large part, facilitated by a combination of a quantum leap in weapon efficiency combined with a highly motivated field army led by excellent subordinates and opposed by an army led by generals who ranged from the incompetant to the mediocre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert E. Lee demonstrated many of the virtues of a manly man, civility, manners, competence, personal bravery, euridition.  Unfortunately he lacked one major manly or gentlemanly virtue.  That a gentleman&#8217;s word, once given, remains given.  While not denigrating his military accomplishments, recent scholarship has pointed out that his great achievements were, in large part, facilitated by a combination of a quantum leap in weapon efficiency combined with a highly motivated field army led by excellent subordinates and opposed by an army led by generals who ranged from the incompetant to the mediocre.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a several decades I have been exploring the questions of what it means to be a man and what it means to be a good man.  I recently discovered this site and I have been inspired and challenged by some of the great things that you have provided.

Given that, I was particularly appalled by this article on General Robert E. Lee and by many of the comments that followed from it.  Whatever his personal virtues and abilities, he chose to betray his country (the United States) and lead the South in the defense of slavery.  If you have read the accounts of the passage from Africa and the conditions that slaves lived under in the South, you know that this was an experience that is a holocaust in its own right.

I see almost no compassion for the people of African descent and I also see no compassion for the Northerners that he slaughtered in defense of this system in the article and in most of the comments that follow.

There were Southerners who fought for the North and there had certainly been decades of activities by the Abolitionists.  It seems incredibly tragic that this man chose the wrong side of history and chose to defend a system of unspeakable horror and cruelty.

I cannot imagine that a single man who reads this site would want to be a slave -- a condition that is the exact opposite of the kind of manly nobility that we are aspiring to.

Clearly, it would have been a far better thing to be the disheveled and whiskey-drinking General Grant holding up the coffin of Lincoln then General Lee.

Lastly, I can only assume that it was a moment of thoughtlessness, but did you really give away a book on a Confederate general on Election Day?  On a day when it was likely that the first African-American man, a true hero in his own right, would be elected President?

I look forward to better.

Best,

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a several decades I have been exploring the questions of what it means to be a man and what it means to be a good man.  I recently discovered this site and I have been inspired and challenged by some of the great things that you have provided.</p>
<p>Given that, I was particularly appalled by this article on General Robert E. Lee and by many of the comments that followed from it.  Whatever his personal virtues and abilities, he chose to betray his country (the United States) and lead the South in the defense of slavery.  If you have read the accounts of the passage from Africa and the conditions that slaves lived under in the South, you know that this was an experience that is a holocaust in its own right.</p>
<p>I see almost no compassion for the people of African descent and I also see no compassion for the Northerners that he slaughtered in defense of this system in the article and in most of the comments that follow.</p>
<p>There were Southerners who fought for the North and there had certainly been decades of activities by the Abolitionists.  It seems incredibly tragic that this man chose the wrong side of history and chose to defend a system of unspeakable horror and cruelty.</p>
<p>I cannot imagine that a single man who reads this site would want to be a slave &#8212; a condition that is the exact opposite of the kind of manly nobility that we are aspiring to.</p>
<p>Clearly, it would have been a far better thing to be the disheveled and whiskey-drinking General Grant holding up the coffin of Lincoln then General Lee.</p>
<p>Lastly, I can only assume that it was a moment of thoughtlessness, but did you really give away a book on a Confederate general on Election Day?  On a day when it was likely that the first African-American man, a true hero in his own right, would be elected President?</p>
<p>I look forward to better.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: James Stewart Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Stewart Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Live every day as though it were your last and learn like it is a cool drink of water on a hot day.</description>
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		<title>By: C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am intrigued at the various responses to the maxims of Robert E. Lee.   I believe most of the responders, myself included, agree that he was a great man, a brilliant general, and a role model, as a manly man, without comparison.

I, too, disagreed with his advice about &quot;reading novels&quot; until giving it some deeper thought, and considering,  as one poster so aptly pointed out, that, in Lee&#039;s day and time, books were their TV, movies, internet, and nearly their sole entertainment and pastimes.    
 
 For a moment, let&#039;s take the word &quot;novel&quot; and think of it as a symbolic word for anything that steals time that could be spent in a more educational vein, or vocationally useful pursuit.  If one thinks of &quot;novel&quot; in that way,  instead of mere useless paper and ink books, one can fully realize the intent of the statement.  

Anything today, especially something done to excess, could fall under the above application of the word &quot;novel&quot;......too much TV, internet, cell phone babbling, pornography,.....  you get the picture.

  I believe what he was trying to say, and I believe this is something we can nearly all agree on, was not to waste precious time doing useless things, filling your mind with trash, etc., when that time could be put to better pursuits.

Just my 2cents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am intrigued at the various responses to the maxims of Robert E. Lee.   I believe most of the responders, myself included, agree that he was a great man, a brilliant general, and a role model, as a manly man, without comparison.</p>
<p>I, too, disagreed with his advice about &#8220;reading novels&#8221; until giving it some deeper thought, and considering,  as one poster so aptly pointed out, that, in Lee&#8217;s day and time, books were their TV, movies, internet, and nearly their sole entertainment and pastimes.    </p>
<p> For a moment, let&#8217;s take the word &#8220;novel&#8221; and think of it as a symbolic word for anything that steals time that could be spent in a more educational vein, or vocationally useful pursuit.  If one thinks of &#8220;novel&#8221; in that way,  instead of mere useless paper and ink books, one can fully realize the intent of the statement.  </p>
<p>Anything today, especially something done to excess, could fall under the above application of the word &#8220;novel&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;too much TV, internet, cell phone babbling, pornography,&#8230;..  you get the picture.</p>
<p>  I believe what he was trying to say, and I believe this is something we can nearly all agree on, was not to waste precious time doing useless things, filling your mind with trash, etc., when that time could be put to better pursuits.</p>
<p>Just my 2cents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Manvotional: True and False Manliness &#124; ProfeC.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manvotional: True and False Manliness &#124; ProfeC.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: H. E. Bianchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. E. Bianchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised the advice on marriage received such positive feedback.  I think it&#039;s rather classist, and altogether awful.  First, believe it or not, good people can come from bad families.  They deserve respect and love just like good people from good families, whose roads were ultimately easier.
Second, marriage is a sacred social contract made by two people.  TWO people.  Who, until the potentiality of children becomes actuality, are the ONLY two people who matter in regards to aforementioned sacred social contract.
Third (and this hasn&#039;t anything to do with Lee&#039;s advice, but with the author&#039;s commentary), I work in a tattoo parlour, my sister works in a bar.  Some of us in these industries actually DO strive to be gentlemen and ladies.  Some of us are also good husbands and good wives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised the advice on marriage received such positive feedback.  I think it&#8217;s rather classist, and altogether awful.  First, believe it or not, good people can come from bad families.  They deserve respect and love just like good people from good families, whose roads were ultimately easier.<br />
Second, marriage is a sacred social contract made by two people.  TWO people.  Who, until the potentiality of children becomes actuality, are the ONLY two people who matter in regards to aforementioned sacred social contract.<br />
Third (and this hasn&#8217;t anything to do with Lee&#8217;s advice, but with the author&#8217;s commentary), I work in a tattoo parlour, my sister works in a bar.  Some of us in these industries actually DO strive to be gentlemen and ladies.  Some of us are also good husbands and good wives.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I really agree with his advice on marriage. Make your children proud of both their parents and don&#039;t &quot;hook up&quot; with some bimbo because she is &quot;hot&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I really agree with his advice on marriage. Make your children proud of both their parents and don&#8217;t &#8220;hook up&#8221; with some bimbo because she is &#8220;hot&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Be A Man! &#171; Chuck Mullis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Be A Man! &#171; Chuck Mullis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Southern Appeal &#187; &#8220;Manly Advice from Robert E. Lee&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: SouthsideJonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthsideJonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A man ought to do what he thinks is right&quot; - John Wayne in the movie &quot;Hondo&quot; (1953)

John Wayne was a great man... and a personal hero of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A man ought to do what he thinks is right&#8221; &#8211; John Wayne in the movie &#8220;Hondo&#8221; (1953)</p>
<p>John Wayne was a great man&#8230; and a personal hero of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: tomdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Had I forseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in my right hand.&quot;

Never a more relevant quote from Marse Lee, especially in light of the &#039;choice&#039; between Obama and McCain, Socialists both.</description>
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<p>Never a more relevant quote from Marse Lee, especially in light of the &#8216;choice&#8217; between Obama and McCain, Socialists both.</p>
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