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		<title>By: Vintage Pinups</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/10/21/your-grandpas-babes/comment-page-3/#comment-59965</link>
		<dc:creator>Vintage Pinups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. Very Classy and well thought out. Glad I stumbled across your site. Does anyone else think Megan Fox looks a little like Hedy Lamarr?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. Very Classy and well thought out. Glad I stumbled across your site. Does anyone else think Megan Fox looks a little like Hedy Lamarr?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These girls had qualities which are totally absent in modern so- called &#039;pin-ups&#039;... allure, class and mystique. Basically, to sum up, &#039;We may all like apple pie -  but we don&#039;t like it thrown in our face!&#039;

One gorgeous lady is conspicuous by her absence however. Where is the incomparable AVA GARDNER??!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These girls had qualities which are totally absent in modern so- called &#8216;pin-ups&#8217;&#8230; allure, class and mystique. Basically, to sum up, &#8216;We may all like apple pie &#8211;  but we don&#8217;t like it thrown in our face!&#8217;</p>
<p>One gorgeous lady is conspicuous by her absence however. Where is the incomparable AVA GARDNER??!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Spinning</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/10/21/your-grandpas-babes/comment-page-3/#comment-32715</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both class and sensuality are states of mind and how one handles themselves in any given situation. If one is consistent in both and follows through with the correct usage of each in every situation, that person will have the respect and admiration of their peers. Someone like the aforementioned Paris, although wealthy was unable to do this correctly in the time she allowed so chose to do the opposite to get noticed by the press and Hollywood. 

Unfortunately, were you able to look up the stats on how many young models are being treated for and dying of eating disorders you may get a better handle on just how much pressure there really is on these young women and girls to be an unhealthy degree of thin. This then carries over into the rest of society and girls not yet in their teens complain of being overweight. This is not just a single case or two, it is spreading rapidly, check with your own kids, and in every country where fashion models walk the runways.

I cannot speak for the rest of this site, as I have not as yet perused it, I has done a search for the Gibson Girls and landed here during my foray. I do find it humorous that  folks wish to include the Gibson &amp; Vargas Girls in &#039;Your Grandpa&#039;s Babes&#039; I truly like the art work myself, and later on they did get a model to pose as a Gibson Girl, but I have no idea if anyone got a model to actually pose as any of the Vargas Girls. I never knew my Grandpa&#039;s, but I would hope they preferred flesh and blood women as I do. I love art work too, but nothing takes the place of a real woman.

Regardless of a woman&#039;s stature, be she an amazon. or petite, slender or a beauty of yesteryear, I dare say if she carries herself with allure and confidence and exudes that sense of knowing as only a woman can, there isn&#039;t a manly man anywhere that didn&#039;t take a second look and wonder!

And as for reading here. women look too, so reading what men think and like would only be natural. And any man that doesn&#039;t listen when a woman speaks from the heart, is missing a lot of chances to not only please both of you but to become much closer than you ever imagined. And yes I expect to get a lot of flack for that statement even though it is the gospel truth...lol

I think I first got to know Myrna Loy in &#039;The Thin Man&#039;, and yes she truly should be on this list. One that came much later but that I also thought was a very classy lady was the co-star of &#039;Hart to Hart&#039;, Stefanie Powers. I don&#039; t remember any scandals, but could easily be wrong, and she still seemed to have that kind of class some of the earlier one&#039;s had. And try to remember,  regardless of what goes on behind closed doors folks, that is between two adults no matter what, unless those pesky camera pests get involved...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both class and sensuality are states of mind and how one handles themselves in any given situation. If one is consistent in both and follows through with the correct usage of each in every situation, that person will have the respect and admiration of their peers. Someone like the aforementioned Paris, although wealthy was unable to do this correctly in the time she allowed so chose to do the opposite to get noticed by the press and Hollywood. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, were you able to look up the stats on how many young models are being treated for and dying of eating disorders you may get a better handle on just how much pressure there really is on these young women and girls to be an unhealthy degree of thin. This then carries over into the rest of society and girls not yet in their teens complain of being overweight. This is not just a single case or two, it is spreading rapidly, check with your own kids, and in every country where fashion models walk the runways.</p>
<p>I cannot speak for the rest of this site, as I have not as yet perused it, I has done a search for the Gibson Girls and landed here during my foray. I do find it humorous that  folks wish to include the Gibson &amp; Vargas Girls in &#8216;Your Grandpa&#8217;s Babes&#8217; I truly like the art work myself, and later on they did get a model to pose as a Gibson Girl, but I have no idea if anyone got a model to actually pose as any of the Vargas Girls. I never knew my Grandpa&#8217;s, but I would hope they preferred flesh and blood women as I do. I love art work too, but nothing takes the place of a real woman.</p>
<p>Regardless of a woman&#8217;s stature, be she an amazon. or petite, slender or a beauty of yesteryear, I dare say if she carries herself with allure and confidence and exudes that sense of knowing as only a woman can, there isn&#8217;t a manly man anywhere that didn&#8217;t take a second look and wonder!</p>
<p>And as for reading here. women look too, so reading what men think and like would only be natural. And any man that doesn&#8217;t listen when a woman speaks from the heart, is missing a lot of chances to not only please both of you but to become much closer than you ever imagined. And yes I expect to get a lot of flack for that statement even though it is the gospel truth&#8230;lol</p>
<p>I think I first got to know Myrna Loy in &#8216;The Thin Man&#8217;, and yes she truly should be on this list. One that came much later but that I also thought was a very classy lady was the co-star of &#8216;Hart to Hart&#8217;, Stefanie Powers. I don&#8217; t remember any scandals, but could easily be wrong, and she still seemed to have that kind of class some of the earlier one&#8217;s had. And try to remember,  regardless of what goes on behind closed doors folks, that is between two adults no matter what, unless those pesky camera pests get involved&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: zee</title>
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		<dc:creator>zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 04:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is disgusting.  The rest of this great site teaches great ways to be a man in the traditional sense, but then this one is the opposite.  The only woman you guys should ever be looking at in her underwear is your wife at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is disgusting.  The rest of this great site teaches great ways to be a man in the traditional sense, but then this one is the opposite.  The only woman you guys should ever be looking at in her underwear is your wife at home.</p>
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		<title>By: McJeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>McJeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this comment is way after the fact, but where the heck is Liz Taylor?!?!?

C&#039;mon, she&#039;s gotta be one of the most beautiful women of all time!!! Those eyes!

Oh yeah, and Kim Novak, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this comment is way after the fact, but where the heck is Liz Taylor?!?!?</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, she&#8217;s gotta be one of the most beautiful women of all time!!! Those eyes!</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and Kim Novak, too.</p>
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		<title>By: the Sublime Blog &#187; Your Grandpa&#8217;s Babes</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/10/21/your-grandpas-babes/comment-page-3/#comment-22203</link>
		<dc:creator>the Sublime Blog &#187; Your Grandpa&#8217;s Babes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about more about Grandpa&#8217;s Babes at The Art of Manliness.   Tagged: classic babes, classy girls, grace kelly, grandpa&#039;s babes, Marilyn Monroe, pin up girls, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous post!

@Dustin-  maybe if you were worried what she&#039;d think about the title &quot;Classic Pin-up Girls&quot; you shouldn&#039;t have clicked on it to begin with.  That&#039;s your own fault.  What did you think it&#039;d be about, Elephants?  

@protesters.  I&#039;ve been delighted with this site, even though I just found it.  I can&#039;t say much for the history of it, but if this is the most questionable article yet than HALLELUJAH! well freaking done.  Wank wank wank wank.  That&#039;s what I have to say in frustration.  Wank.  There. Done.

@All-  I recommend all of you watch &quot;Sex Madness&quot; (1938) some time to see just how an awkward and tame burlesque show could be to make all the guys somehow crazy sexual maniacs.  It&#039;s dreadful acting, but a fun &quot;exploitation&quot; film, like &quot;Reefer Madness&quot;.

 MMmm, I guess Betty is a bit too much for this article?  Love Grace, though.  Love them all, actually... except I&#039;ve never been much of a Monroe fan.  I&#039;m sorry for any who might be offended by my honesty but I never thought she was much of an actress or singer.  No offense to her or her legacy, but for me you need more than a pretty face.  Like Hedy Lamarr...   Love it.

The new burlesque movement is fun and all, (and very well dressed! Well, when dressed...) but it is a bit stronger than the original. 

Yes, I&#039;m a lady who reads this, and since several of the other ladies who do have rather... differing opinions than my own I&#039;d probably better speak my mind to make up for all the ones who also feel as I do but have the common sense to not bother posting.

While it&#039;s charming for men to feel unfaithful to their own while looking at porn (vintage or new- though I have loads of the former myself) and thus abstain from it, I personally don&#039;t find porn a threat or disgrace.  You don&#039;t have to watch, you don&#039;t have to star in it- that&#039;s all a matter of personal discretion, along with many other bedroom-y things that I think are no one&#039;s business but one&#039;s own and to be dealt with delicately in relationships.  There are plenty more mainstream stuff to point fingers at if you&#039;re going to complain about antifeminism.  However, I think the fem-bots here are missing a key point.

Much of this website hearkens to an older era, when the men wore hats and the porn was softer and not poking you in the eye all the time.  Sure, the pin-ups then were mighty racey for the time, and there were the scandals just like today, but isn&#039;t it nice to think maybe a woman can feel sexy and empowered before she even takes anything off?  And isn&#039;t it nice to think men can respect and admire women who are good role models for being sexy while not ....naked?

Besides, you can&#039;t tell me the dialogue in these movies wasn&#039;t a little classier than the worst of our own TV slush, like the Real World which is nothing like the real world but has a decent soundtrack which keeps people watching.  Not to say the time was inherently better all-over because it wasn&#039;t.  But besides grinding on a dance floor, maybe there are better ways to show how sexy we are, better lines to keep a guy at bay, classy ways to tell someone we deserve everything in the world.  And maybe guys should respect us for that.  Although, in my experience I&#039;ve found lots of guys that love a classy broad and have the common sense to respect that when they see it..... if they don&#039;t, than you&#039;re better off waiting and hunting for somebody who does.  Let&#039;s encourage that, classiness and style in men and ladies!

Though these were pin-ups then, they could hardly be counted as porn now, any more than classical roman art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous post!</p>
<p>@Dustin-  maybe if you were worried what she&#8217;d think about the title &#8220;Classic Pin-up Girls&#8221; you shouldn&#8217;t have clicked on it to begin with.  That&#8217;s your own fault.  What did you think it&#8217;d be about, Elephants?  </p>
<p>@protesters.  I&#8217;ve been delighted with this site, even though I just found it.  I can&#8217;t say much for the history of it, but if this is the most questionable article yet than HALLELUJAH! well freaking done.  Wank wank wank wank.  That&#8217;s what I have to say in frustration.  Wank.  There. Done.</p>
<p>@All-  I recommend all of you watch &#8220;Sex Madness&#8221; (1938) some time to see just how an awkward and tame burlesque show could be to make all the guys somehow crazy sexual maniacs.  It&#8217;s dreadful acting, but a fun &#8220;exploitation&#8221; film, like &#8220;Reefer Madness&#8221;.</p>
<p> MMmm, I guess Betty is a bit too much for this article?  Love Grace, though.  Love them all, actually&#8230; except I&#8217;ve never been much of a Monroe fan.  I&#8217;m sorry for any who might be offended by my honesty but I never thought she was much of an actress or singer.  No offense to her or her legacy, but for me you need more than a pretty face.  Like Hedy Lamarr&#8230;   Love it.</p>
<p>The new burlesque movement is fun and all, (and very well dressed! Well, when dressed&#8230;) but it is a bit stronger than the original. </p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m a lady who reads this, and since several of the other ladies who do have rather&#8230; differing opinions than my own I&#8217;d probably better speak my mind to make up for all the ones who also feel as I do but have the common sense to not bother posting.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s charming for men to feel unfaithful to their own while looking at porn (vintage or new- though I have loads of the former myself) and thus abstain from it, I personally don&#8217;t find porn a threat or disgrace.  You don&#8217;t have to watch, you don&#8217;t have to star in it- that&#8217;s all a matter of personal discretion, along with many other bedroom-y things that I think are no one&#8217;s business but one&#8217;s own and to be dealt with delicately in relationships.  There are plenty more mainstream stuff to point fingers at if you&#8217;re going to complain about antifeminism.  However, I think the fem-bots here are missing a key point.</p>
<p>Much of this website hearkens to an older era, when the men wore hats and the porn was softer and not poking you in the eye all the time.  Sure, the pin-ups then were mighty racey for the time, and there were the scandals just like today, but isn&#8217;t it nice to think maybe a woman can feel sexy and empowered before she even takes anything off?  And isn&#8217;t it nice to think men can respect and admire women who are good role models for being sexy while not &#8230;.naked?</p>
<p>Besides, you can&#8217;t tell me the dialogue in these movies wasn&#8217;t a little classier than the worst of our own TV slush, like the Real World which is nothing like the real world but has a decent soundtrack which keeps people watching.  Not to say the time was inherently better all-over because it wasn&#8217;t.  But besides grinding on a dance floor, maybe there are better ways to show how sexy we are, better lines to keep a guy at bay, classy ways to tell someone we deserve everything in the world.  And maybe guys should respect us for that.  Although, in my experience I&#8217;ve found lots of guys that love a classy broad and have the common sense to respect that when they see it&#8230;.. if they don&#8217;t, than you&#8217;re better off waiting and hunting for somebody who does.  Let&#8217;s encourage that, classiness and style in men and ladies!</p>
<p>Though these were pin-ups then, they could hardly be counted as porn now, any more than classical roman art.</p>
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		<title>By: Best of Art of Manliness: October 2008 &#124; The Art of Manliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of Art of Manliness: October 2008 &#124; The Art of Manliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Manic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-15981&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@A&lt;/a&gt; - 

Heard it all before...come on seriously, it is just Pinup art and headshots.

If you think it is one short step...then that&#039;s more of a indication of your habits than what it really is: Pinup.

You cannot deny that during WW2 and Vietnam, soldiers kept images of their wives and girlfriends to keep them going through the hard times. And for those who didn&#039;t have that, had Pinup.</description>
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<p>Heard it all before&#8230;come on seriously, it is just Pinup art and headshots.</p>
<p>If you think it is one short step&#8230;then that&#8217;s more of a indication of your habits than what it really is: Pinup.</p>
<p>You cannot deny that during WW2 and Vietnam, soldiers kept images of their wives and girlfriends to keep them going through the hard times. And for those who didn&#8217;t have that, had Pinup.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about this post.  It doesn&#039;t seem to fit in with the rest of the site.  I thought the point was to build up the modern man, to help me and the other readers become better men.  Looking at Pinups seems to contradict the post Be a Modern Knight: Protecting Your Lady in the 21st Century.  I think it is a short step from here to internet porn and other like material, something that a lot of men battle.  I just feel disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about this post.  It doesn&#8217;t seem to fit in with the rest of the site.  I thought the point was to build up the modern man, to help me and the other readers become better men.  Looking at Pinups seems to contradict the post Be a Modern Knight: Protecting Your Lady in the 21st Century.  I think it is a short step from here to internet porn and other like material, something that a lot of men battle.  I just feel disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kunal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kunal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol this is sweet!</description>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many greats from the past, including Virginia Mayo.  But no Esther Williams or Ingrid Bergman, or even Bridget Bardot; oh well, guess we couldn&#039;t get them all in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many greats from the past, including Virginia Mayo.  But no Esther Williams or Ingrid Bergman, or even Bridget Bardot; oh well, guess we couldn&#8217;t get them all in.</p>
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		<title>By: Shehan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list. But no beautiful women of color! It&#039;s not as if grandpa didn&#039;t think there were beautiful minorities!</description>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kate, i really like your point about extrapolating sexuality in these pictures indicating a cultural normative way of viewing the pictures rather than some intrinsic quality to the pictures themselves.  i will admit i have been guilty of objectifying women, myself included, which is probably why i am so uniquely sensitive to any hint of sexual objectification. we tend to despise that in others which we most fear in ourselves.  i suppose that the objectification is in the eye of the beholder.  i think comparing these pictures to a rodin sculpture is a bit of a jump because to me it seems clear that the intent with pin-up art is to sexually titillate whereas The Kiss, to the best of my ability to discern, was not.  i have thought before that sometimes the more subtle evocative media can be even more dangerous than the hard-core variety because while any person with a brain knows watching an act of explicit violence knows he is out of line, it is easier to justify getting turned on by a &#039;sweet&#039; girly picture.  at the end of the day i think that sexual arousal should be reserved for relationships and if these pictures were designed to stimulate sexual arousal, they do not have a place on the walls of the manly.  if they are art for art&#039;s sake, without intent or effect of stimulating sexual desire, i stand corrected.  it would be hard to convince me of this, but i have appreciated the conversation and new thoughts so far. 

@david, thank you for the kind words.  i have to say that i am confused about the folks with high bmi but low fat and muscle mass (do they just have REALLY big skeletons?).  my understanding is that high bmi is associated with greater risk for heart disease and some cancers.  i have heard that excess body fat increases the chances of SURVIVING an otherwise lethal cardiac arrest; i also understand that the chances of avoiding that heart attack in the first place are diminished considerably by eating a high-nurtient, low-calorie diet and maintaining very low body fat.  i am not interested in internet articles, so the suggestion that i google the topic doesnt much appeal.  if you are aware of peer-reviewed articles in medical journals, please pass them along.  a calorie restricted diet is, from what i have read, the greatest predictor of long life.  it&#039;s worth looking into.  i don&#039;t hate myself or others of the curvaceous variety, i&#039;m just sayin we ought not dog on the thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kate, i really like your point about extrapolating sexuality in these pictures indicating a cultural normative way of viewing the pictures rather than some intrinsic quality to the pictures themselves.  i will admit i have been guilty of objectifying women, myself included, which is probably why i am so uniquely sensitive to any hint of sexual objectification. we tend to despise that in others which we most fear in ourselves.  i suppose that the objectification is in the eye of the beholder.  i think comparing these pictures to a rodin sculpture is a bit of a jump because to me it seems clear that the intent with pin-up art is to sexually titillate whereas The Kiss, to the best of my ability to discern, was not.  i have thought before that sometimes the more subtle evocative media can be even more dangerous than the hard-core variety because while any person with a brain knows watching an act of explicit violence knows he is out of line, it is easier to justify getting turned on by a &#8217;sweet&#8217; girly picture.  at the end of the day i think that sexual arousal should be reserved for relationships and if these pictures were designed to stimulate sexual arousal, they do not have a place on the walls of the manly.  if they are art for art&#8217;s sake, without intent or effect of stimulating sexual desire, i stand corrected.  it would be hard to convince me of this, but i have appreciated the conversation and new thoughts so far. </p>
<p>@david, thank you for the kind words.  i have to say that i am confused about the folks with high bmi but low fat and muscle mass (do they just have REALLY big skeletons?).  my understanding is that high bmi is associated with greater risk for heart disease and some cancers.  i have heard that excess body fat increases the chances of SURVIVING an otherwise lethal cardiac arrest; i also understand that the chances of avoiding that heart attack in the first place are diminished considerably by eating a high-nurtient, low-calorie diet and maintaining very low body fat.  i am not interested in internet articles, so the suggestion that i google the topic doesnt much appeal.  if you are aware of peer-reviewed articles in medical journals, please pass them along.  a calorie restricted diet is, from what i have read, the greatest predictor of long life.  it&#8217;s worth looking into.  i don&#8217;t hate myself or others of the curvaceous variety, i&#8217;m just sayin we ought not dog on the thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Pettigrew</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/10/21/your-grandpas-babes/comment-page-3/#comment-15548</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Pettigrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From this very site (Sex: The Man Killer):

&quot;But it takes more to keep yourself on the right track than simply avoiding the obvious physical, tangible enticements. We must also keep our thoughts faithful and focused, a task difficult to do in this sex-saturated society. Everywhere a man turns there is another advertisement, another movie or commercial with a scantily-clad beauty daring us to pursue her.&quot;

Then you post this. I&#039;m disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From this very site (Sex: The Man Killer):</p>
<p>&#8220;But it takes more to keep yourself on the right track than simply avoiding the obvious physical, tangible enticements. We must also keep our thoughts faithful and focused, a task difficult to do in this sex-saturated society. Everywhere a man turns there is another advertisement, another movie or commercial with a scantily-clad beauty daring us to pursue her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you post this. I&#8217;m disappointed.</p>
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