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By: How to Make Friends and Keep Man Friends | The Art of Manliness

How to Make Friends and Keep Man Friends | The Art of Manliness — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:05:52 +0000

[...] is the isolated nature of their social lives. There’s work and home, and not much else. Joining an organization is quite possibly the best way to create a new social circle for [...]

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:47:21 +0000

We are forgetting the role of World War 2 in forming male roles for the 50s. In an era with a universal military obligation, what it meant to be a man was to be an organization man. You submitted to rank, hierarchy, and authority and willingly put your life in its hands.

When men came home from WW2, they wanted to leave the military life behind, but it had changed men and masculinity. Individuality was a lot less important than security and being a part of the new, stable, prosperous society you were coming back to.

With very few exceptions, young men had entered manhood as young servicemembers, and older men’s lives had been thwarted by 1930s social-economic conditions. There was very little alternative for either but to go with the program, a civilian society with an increasingly authoritarian character.

By: TAO» Blog Archive » The Organization Man

TAO» Blog Archive » The Organization Man — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:35:00 +0000

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By: Kurt Eger

Kurt Eger — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:33:41 +0000

I feel that society still acts in accordance with these views and that this is not a message about men as much as it is about humans in general. I feel all the same angst and disillusionment about society as is indicated on this site and in this book, but I don’t believe that women are void of these same emotions and opinions. The writer William H. Whyte may have targeted men back when this book was written, but there is no way 50 years ago that anyone would have seen the liberal expansion of this society in all directions. When this book was first published was prior to society being made mature with the assasination of such key figures as John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr. Malcolm X, etc. Society was idealistic and it was naive, all the things we lost when these men were killed for political reasons. This book was from a time before America had to look in the mirror with open eyes and see what we’ve become, before we had to admit our faults and correct for them. The message is still true, but the audience is broader.

By: deea // supermagnet » Blog Archive » links for 2008-10-19

deea // supermagnet » Blog Archive » links for 2008-10-19 — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 07:02:04 +0000

[...] Revisiting The Organization Man "It left us the inedible image of the soulless corporate drone, the man in the gray flannel suit, willing to subvert his individuality to pay a mortgage" (tags: sociology career business men) [...]

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:55:18 +0000

If you live in a town with a volunteer fire department, consider joining. Most have a social organization which contributes to the community via projects or donations. VFD’s are facing the same issues of declining membership.

I enjoyed this post and look forward to the future one on fraternal organizations.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:35:39 +0000

May I use snipets of this article to help recruit some of today’s younger vets into the VFW? VFW Posts all over the country are closing down despite the influx of eligable people. I think if more people would read this article it would really make them think about what they really do with their spare time. It is also my theory that the younger members are going to be able to make these type of organizations more efficient and worthwhile as they will ‘modernize’ the ways things are done inside these organizations through the use of computers.

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firmin Äovek - trenutak istorije (13) | Dan u Å¾ivotu (srpske) kompanije — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:33:55 +0000

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By: links for 2008-10-15 | Why I FAILED

links for 2008-10-15 | Why I FAILED — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:42:34 +0000

[...] Revisiting The Organization Man | The Art of Manliness If you've ever wondered why to join a company, this could help (tags: personal_development life success) [...]

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:11:48 +0000

Another top-notch post – thank you

By: John Griogair Bell’s Blog » links for 2008-10-14

John Griogair Bell’s Blog » links for 2008-10-14 — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:06:58 +0000

[...] Revisiting The Organization Man | The Art of Manliness "A man should join an organization which benefits him, but still allows him to hold onto his individuality. A man must acknowledge that it is sometimes not an easy line to walk. Whyte believed that the 1950’s Social Ethic was dead wrong in its denial of the conflict between the individual and society. This tension will always exist. Whyte believed that every individual should face these conflicts and wisely negotiate them." (tags: articles books culture) [...]

By: Would A Perfect Church Allow Me To Be A Member?

Would A Perfect Church Allow Me To Be A Member? — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:32:57 +0000

[...] just read this article from Art of Manliness website about being part of an organization. And found it to coincide with a few thoughts that have [...]

By: Nudels

Nudels — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:07:48 +0000

To quote the great prophet Groucho:

“I don’t want to join a club that will accept me as a member.”

By: Hrimgrimnir

Hrimgrimnir — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:44:25 +0000

@Jonathon Howard –

It really depends a great deal on where you live. The best advice I could give is this – contact the local grand lodge in the area in which you live.

I have been a mason for 4 years, and I enjoy it immensely. I live in Alberta Canada, and can enlighten you on our processes only. Each state or province in every country has rules that differ slightly.

1) the candidate applies to join the lodge
2) the lodge votes to approve the member (usually a formality in a larger town – unless you light random fires and kick dogs you move on in the process
3) a committee is appointed to interview the candidate and discuss his thoughts on masonry and what masonry is all about
4) the committee reports back and if favourable the initiation process moves on.

In general the qualifications are simple – a man must be of lawful age, of “good report and well recommended” and believe in a god of some sort.

Look into it – I can only relate how many of us younger men are starting to get into something bigger than ourselves. The “old fogies” have great stories to tell.

By: Jonathon Howard

Jonathon Howard — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:34:12 +0000

@ Frank

I started to join the Mason’s before I was talked out if by friends… It is something I regret to this day! I’ve been told that I can no longer apply as I failed to have three successful interviews… Is this true? Or can I return to the lodge explain myself and hopefully become a contributing member?