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	<title>Comments on: The History and Nature of Man Friendships</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that males in America for the sake of their sons and new generation need to make a conscious effort to step out of the homophobic prison that we have been living under. Fortunately, I have a lot of friends who have no problem hugging, kissing hello or good bye and telling each other that they love each other during times that are seemingly appropriate. None of us are gay. It might be because the majority of us being Italian, Spanish and Portuguese have been raised with this but interestingly enough, our friends who are not seem to really enjoy expressing thier feelings for one another. It is sad when everything a guy does is overanalyzed to death and considered gay or odd. It needs to stop for the sake of the next generation who seemingly today can not build male friendships and seem so isolated because they are afraid of labels. I also think that the homosexual movement in this country has confused people into believing that any non sexual display of affection between men is a sign that there is some sexual feeling. It is wrong and it is misleading and it should be dismissed as ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that males in America for the sake of their sons and new generation need to make a conscious effort to step out of the homophobic prison that we have been living under. Fortunately, I have a lot of friends who have no problem hugging, kissing hello or good bye and telling each other that they love each other during times that are seemingly appropriate. None of us are gay. It might be because the majority of us being Italian, Spanish and Portuguese have been raised with this but interestingly enough, our friends who are not seem to really enjoy expressing thier feelings for one another. It is sad when everything a guy does is overanalyzed to death and considered gay or odd. It needs to stop for the sake of the next generation who seemingly today can not build male friendships and seem so isolated because they are afraid of labels. I also think that the homosexual movement in this country has confused people into believing that any non sexual display of affection between men is a sign that there is some sexual feeling. It is wrong and it is misleading and it should be dismissed as ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Gomez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Guangzhou, China from August 2006-October 2009.  The newness of seeing guys holding hands was at first, a shock.  I taught school there and some of my male students also held hands.  I got use to it, and came to realize there was nothing wrong with.  I too held hands with some of my male students more for a &quot;I will take care of you&quot; feeling, more than anything else.  It&#039;s a shame that we have lost any emotional ties with men in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Guangzhou, China from August 2006-October 2009.  The newness of seeing guys holding hands was at first, a shock.  I taught school there and some of my male students also held hands.  I got use to it, and came to realize there was nothing wrong with.  I too held hands with some of my male students more for a &#8220;I will take care of you&#8221; feeling, more than anything else.  It&#8217;s a shame that we have lost any emotional ties with men in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;A Turble Stroke to Me&#8221;: William Clark and the Death of Meriwether Lewis &#171; Frances Hunter&#39;s American Heroes Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;A Turble Stroke to Me&#8221;: William Clark and the Death of Meriwether Lewis &#171; Frances Hunter&#39;s American Heroes Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Clark during the years they spent exploring the wilderness. They could have written the book on heroic friendship, an ideal permitted to men in those days. Together they shared responsibility for more than 30 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rahul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

Am a long-time reader from India and got to say, I love your website but I felt compelled to comment on this article giving my perspective as an Indian (or let&#039;s just say non-westerner). I was in the US for two years and have travelled extensively, so can talk about the differences in attitude.

In India, it used to be common to see close male friends holding hands while walking, to have a hand on each other&#039;s shoulder or hug each otehr when meeting. This was because, a) there was limited interaction between men and women and so a man&#039;s best friends were invariably his mates and b) Because the concept of homosexuality or even of homophobia was not on anyone&#039;s mind ie: it was not even thought possible. (of course, it must have existed but basically lurking in the shadows).

On the contrary, since we have been a traditional and conservative society, it would be scandalous for an unmarried man or woman to be hugging each other (because here there was always the possibility of sexual relations : a big NO-NO between an unmarried man and woman). So in fact, we were the opposite case ie: there would never be man-woman friendships as there would always be a suspicion of something going on which did not have social sanction and in a sense a man would never appreciate a woman for her personality but only for her physical beauty. Myself having grown-up at a certain time, like it or not, am sometimes uncomfortable with the concept of pure friendship between a man and a woman. I am not saying this is good, just pointing out the difference in mentality.

 Unfortunately, today with the flattening of the world and the ready access to and influence of western or american culture this easy familiarity  between male youngsters has dissapeared from our bigger cities, though thankfully is alive an well in our smaller cities, where it is not uncommon to see young men unselfconciously hold hands etc. However, this leads western tourists to think that most Indians are gay.That&#039;s crazy.

Personally, I feel much more fulfilled from my male friendships due to one simple reason  outlined in the article: LOYALTY. The concept of standing by your mate through thick and thin and against the entire world if necessary is something I feel u can only get through male-male friendships and I have been lucky enough to find a few friends like that. On the other hand, I have seen too many so called male female friendships get ruined by one person getting attracted to the other or it being like a one-way exchange ie: I have seen quite a few of my male friends being used in one way or another by girls helping them in various ways around the house, explaining concepts at work, protecting them when drinking etc...all in the name of friendship.

Perhaps my thoughts are skewed in one way , based purely on personal experience and conditioning. But I would say go for male friendships guys. They can be deep and can help you weather many a storm. 

Regards,
Rahul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>Am a long-time reader from India and got to say, I love your website but I felt compelled to comment on this article giving my perspective as an Indian (or let&#8217;s just say non-westerner). I was in the US for two years and have travelled extensively, so can talk about the differences in attitude.</p>
<p>In India, it used to be common to see close male friends holding hands while walking, to have a hand on each other&#8217;s shoulder or hug each otehr when meeting. This was because, a) there was limited interaction between men and women and so a man&#8217;s best friends were invariably his mates and b) Because the concept of homosexuality or even of homophobia was not on anyone&#8217;s mind ie: it was not even thought possible. (of course, it must have existed but basically lurking in the shadows).</p>
<p>On the contrary, since we have been a traditional and conservative society, it would be scandalous for an unmarried man or woman to be hugging each other (because here there was always the possibility of sexual relations : a big NO-NO between an unmarried man and woman). So in fact, we were the opposite case ie: there would never be man-woman friendships as there would always be a suspicion of something going on which did not have social sanction and in a sense a man would never appreciate a woman for her personality but only for her physical beauty. Myself having grown-up at a certain time, like it or not, am sometimes uncomfortable with the concept of pure friendship between a man and a woman. I am not saying this is good, just pointing out the difference in mentality.</p>
<p> Unfortunately, today with the flattening of the world and the ready access to and influence of western or american culture this easy familiarity  between male youngsters has dissapeared from our bigger cities, though thankfully is alive an well in our smaller cities, where it is not uncommon to see young men unselfconciously hold hands etc. However, this leads western tourists to think that most Indians are gay.That&#8217;s crazy.</p>
<p>Personally, I feel much more fulfilled from my male friendships due to one simple reason  outlined in the article: LOYALTY. The concept of standing by your mate through thick and thin and against the entire world if necessary is something I feel u can only get through male-male friendships and I have been lucky enough to find a few friends like that. On the other hand, I have seen too many so called male female friendships get ruined by one person getting attracted to the other or it being like a one-way exchange ie: I have seen quite a few of my male friends being used in one way or another by girls helping them in various ways around the house, explaining concepts at work, protecting them when drinking etc&#8230;all in the name of friendship.</p>
<p>Perhaps my thoughts are skewed in one way , based purely on personal experience and conditioning. But I would say go for male friendships guys. They can be deep and can help you weather many a storm. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Rahul</p>
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		<title>By: ManInTheMaking</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/08/24/the-history-and-nature-of-man-friendships/comment-page-1/#comment-54826</link>
		<dc:creator>ManInTheMaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m sick of these modern concepts of male friendship. It&#039;s way too uncomfortable, and even feels unnatural, because of homophobia. Emotional and physical bonding is something that has lacked in my relationships and now I regret how shallow my friendships really are. I&#039;m working on it though. A real man shouldn&#039;t be afraid of close friendships. It takes strong effort though, especially in this modern world. Let&#039;s go deeper and form real manly companionship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m sick of these modern concepts of male friendship. It&#8217;s way too uncomfortable, and even feels unnatural, because of homophobia. Emotional and physical bonding is something that has lacked in my relationships and now I regret how shallow my friendships really are. I&#8217;m working on it though. A real man shouldn&#8217;t be afraid of close friendships. It takes strong effort though, especially in this modern world. Let&#8217;s go deeper and form real manly companionship!</p>
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