Is it Manly to Swear?

by Brett & Kate McKay on June 25, 2008 · 116 comments

in Blog, Is It Manly?

We thought it would be fun to start a weekly survey in which we ask Art of Manliness readers whether they think certain actions/jobs/cars/etc are manly. Manliness is a pretty vague concept and means different things to different people. We’re interested in what you think is manly or not and hopefully we can start some interesting discussion and civil debate. We plan on posting the questions on Thursday and we’ll run it in the sidebar for a week. So let’s get started with the first weekly edition of the Art of Manliness “Is it manly?” survey.

Is swearing manly? Vote. Discuss.

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101 Nick January 6, 2010 at 10:40 am

What the fu** kind of question is that anyway. Of course its manly to swear. You just can’t swear in front of women or children. If you need to ask your friend, “What the fu** were you thinking when you…?”, there is no better way to phrase that sentence. However, you should not ask the produce clerk at the grocery store, “Where the fu** are the baby carrots?”…this would be improper use. Swear with your manly friends, and you can be a swearing gentleman…it’s that easy.

102 John Michael January 6, 2010 at 11:03 am

Swearing is not manly. It shows a lack of imagination or vocabulary that you can not express yourself better than a 4 letter profanity.

Some will argue that as long as there are no women or children present it’s okay. The catch here is what you do when they aren’t around can easily become habit and next thing you know you are dropping the f-bomb in mixed company and not even realizing it.

Also, Swearing does not win you an argument or make you sound more manily or intelligent. It just makes you sound crass

103 Glen Tickle January 6, 2010 at 12:25 pm

A man should swear with purpose. When one swears it should be with effect and not just a filler. These words hold more impact when used sparingly.

104 Robtherobot January 6, 2010 at 7:29 pm

My Jr High Math teacher (who also taught metal-shop) had a favorite saying:
“Profanity is the act of a feeble mind trying to express itself forceably”.
It takes intellectual prowess to express deep emotions in the heat of the moment without resorting to crass, cheap, shortcut words.
That being said; sometimes (but rarely) the only word that can so poignantly and effectively communicate a negative emotion or connotation may just happen to be a strong word.

105 Gregor Ausman January 8, 2010 at 3:46 am

Andrew, et. al.,

Covering up a curse just makes you look like a jackass. It fails to convey the emotion being broadcast, and nobody past 6th grade should do it. I will make an exception for ‘Oh, crap’. If it’s good enough for Hellboy, it’s good enough for me.

I’d say that profanity in general is an art unto itself. If overdone it simply makes one look ignorant. We’ve all been stuck in line behind some piece of white trash who can’t utter a sentence without cursing. It dilutes the effect. I’ve been told that cursing is a weak mind’s way of appearing strong. In the case of those who overdo it, that’s definiely true.

I think swearing should be kept to a relative minimum. That way, when it comes out, the effect is truly impressive.

106 John January 19, 2010 at 12:56 pm

I had a Drill Instructor who never swore. His use of language was amazing and was much more effective than profanity.

As a general rule, I think that – like in most things – context is everything. What is acceptable sitting around a campfire drinking homebrew with a dozen guys is not acceptable around your mother’s dining room table on Thanksgiving.

107 Joshua Hubbard January 21, 2010 at 2:00 pm

I dont think there is a problem with swearing. After all we were the ones who put this tabboo onto simple words. I do however have to say that there are some times where swearing is not appropiate. Is it manly however. I do not think so, how we use words do not make us any more manly than me eating a steak.

108 Frank Rider January 28, 2010 at 4:14 am

I have no problem swearing, although that is not the answer you are looking for. I believe a certain level of profanity is a cornerstone of manhood, but only outside of mixed company. Simple swears, such as hell, damn, shit and their brethren are staples of male speech. The first real joke dad told you had a swear, a little bit of vile grumbling is known to relieve the pain from a bump more than your momma’s kiss. Dirty language should be limited, though, and most slang is tasteless – and therefor is useless.

Look at Tom Waits and Nick Cave. Two extremely manly men, neither swears very often. Compare to Jay-z or Eminem, two men who have embraced the modern mantle of rapperhood. Both are copiously tattooed, vile mouthed, and hated by your grandpa. A swear is only manly in the right portion and context.

109 JP February 8, 2010 at 1:43 pm

great question. I find that when I hear someone swearing, especially at work, I think to myself…”…what a complete and utter moron.”

I have however, been inspired by the use of this type of language.

(long story):

Years ago when I was in my early 20′s and still lived at my parents home, my father and I used to leave for work at the same time every morning. One particular morning I was just getting home from work from the previous day (I was a merchandising Manager at Toys R Us) as he was leaving (he was Design Supervisor at Ford Motor Co.).

He kind of laughed at me and asked if I went out and tied one on last night (read: was I drunk.)

I explained that as a store Manager it was my responsibility to stay at the store if there were issues that needed attending – no matter how late it was or how long I had already been working.

Then he asked me a direct and probing question “Are they paying you for your time?”

I told him that I was a salaried employee AND that I would also receive a bonus at years end.

Curious, he asked me how much of a bonus I expected at years end (1985).

I told him (as I kind of puffed up my chest – feeling rather manly) based on my last years bonus I could expect about $2,500 to $3,000 or around 15% of my salary.

That’s when he did it….

As he turned around shaking his head in disgust, he walked away and said “You must have SHIT for brains’.

My father knew that I aspired to be a draftsman, too; and he knew that because times had been extremely tough in the auto industry in the early 1980′s I had given up my passion; changing my Major from Engineering to Management. He had offered many times to “help” me get a job in the Design world, but I rebuffed him – wanting to make it on my own and not ride on his proverbial “coat-tails”.

My father also rarely swore.

So his use of one well timed swear word hit me like a ton of bricks….it also, changed my life.

I could not stop hearing his words in my head.

A few days later I asked him about his comment to which he helped me to understand his theory of “getting paid for the work you do, and getting paid fairly.”

After our discussion – and since the auto industry by that time had recovered – I allowed him to use his influence to “help” me land a job in the field that I truly loved.

If he had said “…you must have dung for brains…” or “…you must have doo doo for brains…” I doubt that the effect AND affect would not have been so great.

That was 24 years ago. I currently am a well respected (and still employed) Design Engineer.

So to the question at hand: Is Swearing manly? In the proper context, and more importantly, in reserved moderation – Yes!

110 Brett R. McCaw February 11, 2010 at 1:40 am

I certainly cannot say that swearing has an ‘absolute’ value of manliness (or gentleman-liness for that matter).

But I do remember hearing a comment about the George Bernanos, the 20th century French writer, who knew the ‘art of profanity — how to curse well’.

“How to curse well….” .. Putting it that way, ultimately, the ‘art of profanity’ has to be manly.

111 AM Hudor February 11, 2010 at 8:30 am

There is a whole spectrum of swearing: at one end the easily-parodied “That effing effer won’t do eff-all, fer eff’sake.” This is funny at best (and at best it IS funny).
At the other end of the spectrum, in fact beyond the other end, is the swearing in the well-placed “shit for brains” story that JP told a couple of days ago. I say “beyond the other end” because if swearing is dramatic filler, this is not swearing. It’s a pretty creative metaphor (which we use so often that we don’t notice its metaphoric qualities), pointing out that someone’s mental powers are completely useless.
At the other end of the swearing spectrum is the “In emergency break glass” use, where one needs to convey inexpressible anger and frustration and uses profanity to do that because there are no available words – the point just short of wordless screaming. I took my then-young daughter to hear a talk about soldiers in Viet Nam (I didn’t think beforehand about what we were getting in for), and afterwards we had a long talk about how it’s okay to swear when things are just absolutely so bad that you don’t have any regular words to express yourself. I think in the context of war that that made an impression on her – she certainly didn’t swear at all in my presence when she was a kid, and she rarely does now.
I’m not sure what is meant by manly here, since women swear too, except that a mensch should choose all his (or her, the word “mensch” applies linguistically to women too) words so as really to communicate meaningfully and give up on choosing them in emergencies. In other words, we shouldn’t overuse “sweet” or “cool” either.

112 Collin March 30, 2010 at 1:36 pm

I think it’s more manly not to use any exclamations/outbursts at all.
Not just swear words, but any signal that you’ve temporarily lost control.
“Argh!”,”Ugh”, “Dangit!”, et cetera.
Swearing tends to make the people around the swearer feel inferior or degraded. Plus if you can’t say it in front of a five-year old or a lady, you shouldn’t say it anyway.
If a real man needs to put someone in their place he can do it without swearing.
If a real man needs to get attention he can command it in other ways.
If it’s actually harder to express yourself without swearing then that means it’s probably the more manly thing to do.
Swearing = weakness.

113 Sean P. April 1, 2010 at 10:28 pm

I’m in the ‘curse when it’s useful’ camp. There are occasions when swearing can be very effective. As was mentioned earlier when a friend does something so ridiculously stupid as to be immoral a “What the f*ck were you thinking?” Conveys the same message as “Sir, what you have done is ridiculously stupid as to be borderline immoral, I must inquire as to your thoughts that led to that action.” AND with emotion.

But the ‘cursing’ shows a lack of self control and maturity crowd make an excellent point. Which leads me to the question.

Must a man always be in control of his emotions? Or can they be used to add fuel to the fire as it were?

114 Alemus April 23, 2010 at 5:06 pm

There is absolutely no correlation between swearing and manliness. The question is absurd. The problem is that masculinity is often equated with lack of refinement (not shaving, et cetera) hence the question.

115 Jonathan July 14, 2010 at 5:04 am

Hmmm…as a new reader, thanks to Google,haha…I find swearing rather effeminate. My high school friends who are rather effeminate by nature pepper their convos with every swearword imaginable and then some. I feel that speech is a noble thing and should be used to more lofty ends like the expression of praise, wisdom and every form of goodness. Salt and sweet water simply cannot flow from the same spring.

116 Mohammad August 7, 2010 at 11:13 pm

No it’s not. It’s disrespectful and unnecessary.

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