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	<title>Comments on: Asking a Woman&#8217;s Father For Her Hand In Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: annaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>annaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a big difference between asking for permission, and asking for a blessing. I specifically told my husband before we were engaged NOT to ask for my father for permission - because he&#039;s marrying me, not my dad, and we would do it regardless of his opinion. But if he had called and asked both my parents for a blessing, that would&#039;ve been totally fine with me. He didn&#039;t, and that was okay with me, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a big difference between asking for permission, and asking for a blessing. I specifically told my husband before we were engaged NOT to ask for my father for permission &#8211; because he&#8217;s marrying me, not my dad, and we would do it regardless of his opinion. But if he had called and asked both my parents for a blessing, that would&#8217;ve been totally fine with me. He didn&#8217;t, and that was okay with me, too.</p>
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		<title>By: library_goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>library_goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if your girlfriend isn&#039;t that close to her father (i.e. wasn&#039;t/isn&#039;t a part of her life)? That&#039;s my situation. I was thinking about asking her brother because they&#039;re very close, and he would probably be the one to give her away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if your girlfriend isn&#8217;t that close to her father (i.e. wasn&#8217;t/isn&#8217;t a part of her life)? That&#8217;s my situation. I was thinking about asking her brother because they&#8217;re very close, and he would probably be the one to give her away.</p>
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		<title>By: Filipina Dating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filipina Dating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it should not only the father&#039;s heart should be win by a guy it should be both because what if the father is okay with his daughter marrying but the mother is not yet ready? So, to have the blessings from both parents are really important to make your marriage life successful and harmonious.  

The tips being mentioned on how to win parents&#039; heart as you want to ask their daughter&#039;s hand for settling down are very good as this will be the start of  the foundation you want to build with the bride&#039;s family to be in good terms on both sides.  

I really do admire men who knows how to ask for blessings from the bride&#039;s sides because it means sincerity and respects the girl&#039;s family so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it should not only the father&#8217;s heart should be win by a guy it should be both because what if the father is okay with his daughter marrying but the mother is not yet ready? So, to have the blessings from both parents are really important to make your marriage life successful and harmonious.  </p>
<p>The tips being mentioned on how to win parents&#8217; heart as you want to ask their daughter&#8217;s hand for settling down are very good as this will be the start of  the foundation you want to build with the bride&#8217;s family to be in good terms on both sides.  </p>
<p>I really do admire men who knows how to ask for blessings from the bride&#8217;s sides because it means sincerity and respects the girl&#8217;s family so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/15/asking-a-womans-father-for-her-hand-in-marriage/comment-page-3/#comment-51234</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our society has lost a sense of &quot;family&quot; with everyone going here, there, everywhere and no anchor or consistency. Asking a potential father-in-law (and mother-in-law as well, very good point) acknowledges his care for his daughter, and you are now assuming the care of his child. After the wedding you also get another father (in-law)--somebody to help you finish that deck, or lend you that fishing pole. Sure, you&#039;re going to clean their swimming pool, but then you can grab the beer in the fridge, without asking, or needing to be offered.

You also demonstrate you are able to go man-to-man with someone older, and, yes, be declined. Take it like a man, and ask why if that happens. Listen to the answer and counter with one of your own. If she is worth fighting for, or waiting for, she is worth marrying. 

If he gives the ok, good job, dude. Take care of her, give her as many children as she wants, pray all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our society has lost a sense of &#8220;family&#8221; with everyone going here, there, everywhere and no anchor or consistency. Asking a potential father-in-law (and mother-in-law as well, very good point) acknowledges his care for his daughter, and you are now assuming the care of his child. After the wedding you also get another father (in-law)&#8211;somebody to help you finish that deck, or lend you that fishing pole. Sure, you&#8217;re going to clean their swimming pool, but then you can grab the beer in the fridge, without asking, or needing to be offered.</p>
<p>You also demonstrate you are able to go man-to-man with someone older, and, yes, be declined. Take it like a man, and ask why if that happens. Listen to the answer and counter with one of your own. If she is worth fighting for, or waiting for, she is worth marrying. </p>
<p>If he gives the ok, good job, dude. Take care of her, give her as many children as she wants, pray all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Hoffberg - Lindy Hop Instructor &#38; Performer</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/15/asking-a-womans-father-for-her-hand-in-marriage/comment-page-3/#comment-45844</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Hoffberg - Lindy Hop Instructor &#38; Performer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bodagett</title>
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		<dc:creator>bodagett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s the scoop...

fundamentally, in biologic history man has protected the woman and woman has civilized the man. the asking has to do with the woman moving from the man&#039;s protection to the future husband&#039;s. It has nothing to do with property. (and notice the woman&#039;s power in this arrangement)

can&#039;t wait for the name-calling regarding my opinion :-) ... about how misogynist and backward it is, &#039;chauvinist, insensitive, and inappropriate&#039;,... respondents reasoning out of their own little experience, and protected by social systems that allow them to delude themselves.  but it&#039;s the truth.

oh, and what does &#039;sexist&#039; mean? To me, it means recognizing the differences between the two. Thus only a fool could fail to be sexist. 

(tip: if your future father-in-law is not the kind that can be asked, you should consider long and hard whether you should be interlinking with that other family web. not saying it won&#039;t work, just that you are defying the odds).

then finally, why are women who are &#039;independent&#039; and self-sufficient bothering to read this men&#039;s site? why should they care? and commenting to correct the author? mebbe they have a few control issues of their own? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s the scoop&#8230;</p>
<p>fundamentally, in biologic history man has protected the woman and woman has civilized the man. the asking has to do with the woman moving from the man&#8217;s protection to the future husband&#8217;s. It has nothing to do with property. (and notice the woman&#8217;s power in this arrangement)</p>
<p>can&#8217;t wait for the name-calling regarding my opinion <img src='http://artofmanliness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; about how misogynist and backward it is, &#8216;chauvinist, insensitive, and inappropriate&#8217;,&#8230; respondents reasoning out of their own little experience, and protected by social systems that allow them to delude themselves.  but it&#8217;s the truth.</p>
<p>oh, and what does &#8217;sexist&#8217; mean? To me, it means recognizing the differences between the two. Thus only a fool could fail to be sexist. </p>
<p>(tip: if your future father-in-law is not the kind that can be asked, you should consider long and hard whether you should be interlinking with that other family web. not saying it won&#8217;t work, just that you are defying the odds).</p>
<p>then finally, why are women who are &#8216;independent&#8217; and self-sufficient bothering to read this men&#8217;s site? why should they care? and commenting to correct the author? mebbe they have a few control issues of their own? <img src='http://artofmanliness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: alexia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a woman:

I told my fiancee that if he wanted to marry me, then he would have to ask BOTH my parents for a blessing. I&#039;m not sure why the mother is left out seeing as how she&#039;s the one that had your bride to be in the first place. I personally think it&#039;s sexist to ask the father for permission. Just ask the parents for a blessing and move on. There are women that don&#039;t mind the asking a man for permission to be property to another man, but there are some women that are independent and don&#039;t belong to any man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a woman:</p>
<p>I told my fiancee that if he wanted to marry me, then he would have to ask BOTH my parents for a blessing. I&#8217;m not sure why the mother is left out seeing as how she&#8217;s the one that had your bride to be in the first place. I personally think it&#8217;s sexist to ask the father for permission. Just ask the parents for a blessing and move on. There are women that don&#8217;t mind the asking a man for permission to be property to another man, but there are some women that are independent and don&#8217;t belong to any man.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael-

I would say waiting for him to visit you is fine if you&#039;re not in a hurry.

&quot;That and how long after asking her for her hand is acceptable?&quot;

Could you clarify what you mean here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael-</p>
<p>I would say waiting for him to visit you is fine if you&#8217;re not in a hurry.</p>
<p>&#8220;That and how long after asking her for her hand is acceptable?&#8221;</p>
<p>Could you clarify what you mean here?</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warning:  Female perspective!  Another reason to ask her Father&#039;s blessing, and this is not for everyone, obviously, but it was for me, is that before I was married I &quot;belonged&quot; to my Dad.  (In a sense.)  I was &quot;his girl&quot;.  When he walked me down the aisle, he &quot;gave me away&quot;.  Gave me TO someone.  Now I belong to my husband, in the best sense of the word &quot;belong&quot;.  It only made sense for my future groom to ask my Dad if he could have the honor of my hand.  I was his girl, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warning:  Female perspective!  Another reason to ask her Father&#8217;s blessing, and this is not for everyone, obviously, but it was for me, is that before I was married I &#8220;belonged&#8221; to my Dad.  (In a sense.)  I was &#8220;his girl&#8221;.  When he walked me down the aisle, he &#8220;gave me away&#8221;.  Gave me TO someone.  Now I belong to my husband, in the best sense of the word &#8220;belong&#8221;.  It only made sense for my future groom to ask my Dad if he could have the honor of my hand.  I was his girl, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 wouldn&#039;t it be the rest of my life?

OK, forgive my snarkiness, wonderful article, and I think it is a wonderful tradition.  I am curious though, my gal&#039;s parents live 6 hours away, and he visits here much more frequently then i visit  there (never have).  Would it be acceptable to wait for a visit and as him then?  That and how long after asking her for her hand is acceptable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 wouldn&#8217;t it be the rest of my life?</p>
<p>OK, forgive my snarkiness, wonderful article, and I think it is a wonderful tradition.  I am curious though, my gal&#8217;s parents live 6 hours away, and he visits here much more frequently then i visit  there (never have).  Would it be acceptable to wait for a visit and as him then?  That and how long after asking her for her hand is acceptable?</p>
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		<title>By: The Ultimate Guide to Buying the Perfect Engagement Ring &#124; The Art of Manliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ultimate Guide to Buying the Perfect Engagement Ring &#124; The Art of Manliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the girl who is the &#8220;one.&#8221; Check.   Ask her father for her hand in marriage. Check.  Plan the perfect proposal. Check. Buy engagement ring. Hmmmm&#8230;..  Buying an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sliman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sliman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just I want to maried but I don t find a good woman for that, I hope to find it in this meeting
sliman</description>
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		<title>By: Debbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently my 24 year old daughter&#039;s boyfriend came and asked for both mine and my husband&#039;s blessing to marrying our daughter.  We could not give it.  We told him clearly it wasnt because we didnt think him suitable but the timing was inappropriate.  They have only been dating just over 3 months.  Both are keen to get married.  Our daughter has been very impulsive in the last 12-24 months.  Only 5 months ago wanting to move in with a feller she had only known a couple of months only to break up 2 weeks later.  We fear she is more interested in finding someone to marry but not necessarily Mr Right.  She just wants someone to marry her!  Her younger sister by 4 years is engaged and is to be married in 12 months time.  They were engaged six months ago and so have a very decent time to wait and enjoy being fiances.  Now our eldest daughter who has only known the guy just over three months wants to jump ahead and quickly marry this year.  In total, meet, engage and marry in under 8 months.

We know it has worked for some.  He possibly is the right guy but given her track record want them to wait a bit longer and also be considerate of her younger sister and not jump the cue!  We dont understand why there is a need to rush things.  

It was difficult not to give our blessing and we feel somewhat disappointed that we have been robbed of the opportunity to be happy...if only they would wait...its just too early.  Our daughter is missing out on being able to share this what should be happy time.  We&#039;re pretty sure that everyone she announces to will also have concerns.  Everyone will miss out on being happy for them and naturally, they wont be happy either.  

We dont know what to do from here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently my 24 year old daughter&#8217;s boyfriend came and asked for both mine and my husband&#8217;s blessing to marrying our daughter.  We could not give it.  We told him clearly it wasnt because we didnt think him suitable but the timing was inappropriate.  They have only been dating just over 3 months.  Both are keen to get married.  Our daughter has been very impulsive in the last 12-24 months.  Only 5 months ago wanting to move in with a feller she had only known a couple of months only to break up 2 weeks later.  We fear she is more interested in finding someone to marry but not necessarily Mr Right.  She just wants someone to marry her!  Her younger sister by 4 years is engaged and is to be married in 12 months time.  They were engaged six months ago and so have a very decent time to wait and enjoy being fiances.  Now our eldest daughter who has only known the guy just over three months wants to jump ahead and quickly marry this year.  In total, meet, engage and marry in under 8 months.</p>
<p>We know it has worked for some.  He possibly is the right guy but given her track record want them to wait a bit longer and also be considerate of her younger sister and not jump the cue!  We dont understand why there is a need to rush things.  </p>
<p>It was difficult not to give our blessing and we feel somewhat disappointed that we have been robbed of the opportunity to be happy&#8230;if only they would wait&#8230;its just too early.  Our daughter is missing out on being able to share this what should be happy time.  We&#8217;re pretty sure that everyone she announces to will also have concerns.  Everyone will miss out on being happy for them and naturally, they wont be happy either.  </p>
<p>We dont know what to do from here.</p>
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		<title>By: So Awkward: Asking For Her Dad’s Permission &#171; Rules Of Engagement - Blog &#38; Community for Guys &#38; Brides - The Ring, The Proposal, The Wedding</title>
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		<dc:creator>So Awkward: Asking For Her Dad’s Permission &#171; Rules Of Engagement - Blog &#38; Community for Guys &#38; Brides - The Ring, The Proposal, The Wedding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ian Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 06:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly have to say I personally believe this is a tradition which should either be retired or greatly modified.  On the day in which I propose, if the lady accepts,  there will be no power in heaven or earth which will stop me from marrying her.  Asking permission, assumes that permission could be denied.  If I have already actually proposed (see step 1) I would love to have a man-to man talk with my potential father-in law, but the fact of the matter is, even if this talk goes poorly, I will not change my mind.  As such, &quot;asking permission&quot; would be insulting.  If I asked my own father for permission to drive his corvette, and he said no, I WOULD NOT DO SO.  Not so, in the case of marriage proposal. A man-to man could still be a great idea, and most steps would still apply, but &quot;asking permission&quot; would be an empty insulting gesture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly have to say I personally believe this is a tradition which should either be retired or greatly modified.  On the day in which I propose, if the lady accepts,  there will be no power in heaven or earth which will stop me from marrying her.  Asking permission, assumes that permission could be denied.  If I have already actually proposed (see step 1) I would love to have a man-to man talk with my potential father-in law, but the fact of the matter is, even if this talk goes poorly, I will not change my mind.  As such, &#8220;asking permission&#8221; would be insulting.  If I asked my own father for permission to drive his corvette, and he said no, I WOULD NOT DO SO.  Not so, in the case of marriage proposal. A man-to man could still be a great idea, and most steps would still apply, but &#8220;asking permission&#8221; would be an empty insulting gesture.</p>
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