Comments on: Lessons in Manliness: Theodore Roosevelt and the Spanish-American War http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/01/lessons-in-manliness-theodore-roosevelt-and-the-spanish-american-war/ Men's Interests and Lifestyle Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:58:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Git’r done « The Hammer Stage http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/01/lessons-in-manliness-theodore-roosevelt-and-the-spanish-american-war/comment-page-1/#comment-101063 Git’r done « The Hammer Stage Mon, 10 May 2010 04:22:50 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=190#comment-101063 [...] States.  I haven’t reached the parts about his experience in the Spanish-American war, but this post (on this excellent blog) details some of the lessons he learned from that [...] [...] States.  I haven’t reached the parts about his experience in the Spanish-American war, but this post (on this excellent blog) details some of the lessons he learned from that [...]

]]> By: Richard http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/01/lessons-in-manliness-theodore-roosevelt-and-the-spanish-american-war/comment-page-1/#comment-98463 Richard Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:28:12 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=190#comment-98463 I think the reason people argue with bigots and other idiots on the Internet is because sunlight is the best disinfectant. I think a real man accepts people for what they are, regardless of the colour of their skin, whether they choose to have sex with women men or to abstain, whether they believe in a beardy man in the sky who is watching you or not. People should be judged by the contents of their character. I know gay men who are honourable, generous, and in all the important ways much more of a man than many of the straight men I know. What they choose to get up to in their bedrooms is their business. If you think a text only ad for Gay Military Dating is somehow offensive and a danger to your son, then I feel sorry for you. I think the reason people argue with bigots and other idiots on the Internet is because sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I think a real man accepts people for what they are, regardless of the colour of their skin, whether they choose to have sex with women men or to abstain, whether they believe in a beardy man in the sky who is watching you or not.

People should be judged by the contents of their character. I know gay men who are honourable, generous, and in all the important ways much more of a man than many of the straight men I know. What they choose to get up to in their bedrooms is their business.

If you think a text only ad for Gay Military Dating is somehow offensive and a danger to your son, then I feel sorry for you.

]]> By: David http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/01/lessons-in-manliness-theodore-roosevelt-and-the-spanish-american-war/comment-page-1/#comment-81304 David Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:11:51 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=190#comment-81304 I think it's hilarious that so many people are arguing about this. On the internet. With other people that argue on the internet. Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard. (And yes, to all of the far-too-sensitive folks out there, I realize how terribly improper that joke is, and no, I don't really mean anything by it.) I think it’s hilarious that so many people are arguing about this. On the internet. With other people that argue on the internet. Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still a retard.

(And yes, to all of the far-too-sensitive folks out there, I realize how terribly improper that joke is, and no, I don’t really mean anything by it.)

]]> By: PK http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/01/lessons-in-manliness-theodore-roosevelt-and-the-spanish-american-war/comment-page-1/#comment-73732 PK Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:20:10 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=190#comment-73732 I have to amend my previous post. I should have checked my facts first and failed to do so. I apologize. The amendments are these, 1) it is not clear that the officer for the Buffalo soldiers was killed. 2) they did recieve praise at the time of the battle and commendations. Nevertheless, the Rough Riders were not the heart of the attack on the San Juan Heights and TR was not at the head of the main assault, though he did join in the assault after taking Kettle Hill with the Rough Riders. I have to amend my previous post. I should have checked my facts first and failed to do so. I apologize. The amendments are these, 1) it is not clear that the officer for the Buffalo soldiers was killed. 2) they did recieve praise at the time of the battle and commendations. Nevertheless, the Rough Riders were not the heart of the attack on the San Juan Heights and TR was not at the head of the main assault, though he did join in the assault after taking Kettle Hill with the Rough Riders.

]]> By: PK http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/01/lessons-in-manliness-theodore-roosevelt-and-the-spanish-american-war/comment-page-1/#comment-73730 PK Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:10:55 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/?p=190#comment-73730 This is one of those situations where the truth may in fact be less glorious than what we're told. By accounts on the day the bulk of the fighting in taking the San Juan Heights was done by African American troops. The Rough Riders were there, but did not as depicted in press accounts at the time, lead the charge to take the Heights. Custom of the day was that all black troops were lead by white officers in the event that the white officer was killed, the next nearest white officer was presumed to be in charge. In this case, Roosevelt. There is no denying that Roosevelt was quite a forceful character, but the version of the story that has the Rough Riders leading the capture of the San Juan Heights is actually false. The African American soldiers, much like Matthew Henson, never received the glory that they deserved. Truly unfortunate. This is one of those situations where the truth may in fact be less glorious than what we’re told. By accounts on the day the bulk of the fighting in taking the San Juan Heights was done by African American troops. The Rough Riders were there, but did not as depicted in press accounts at the time, lead the charge to take the Heights. Custom of the day was that all black troops were lead by white officers in the event that the white officer was killed, the next nearest white officer was presumed to be in charge. In this case, Roosevelt. There is no denying that Roosevelt was quite a forceful character, but the version of the story that has the Rough Riders leading the capture of the San Juan Heights is actually false. The African American soldiers, much like Matthew Henson, never received the glory that they deserved. Truly unfortunate.

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