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		<title>By: Peoples Press Collective &#124; Colorado Politics &#124; People We Would Invite to Dinner&#8230; :</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/27/its-time-for-a-menaissance/comment-page-1/#comment-100159</link>
		<dc:creator>Peoples Press Collective &#124; Colorado Politics &#124; People We Would Invite to Dinner&#8230; :</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] inspirations, their guide on buying a good suit&#8230;and we flat out adore their use of the term &#8216;Menaissance&#8217;. Go to their site and absorb the goodness. It&#8217;s witty, fun, and wonderfully true. We cannot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] inspirations, their guide on buying a good suit&#8230;and we flat out adore their use of the term &#8216;Menaissance&#8217;. Go to their site and absorb the goodness. It&#8217;s witty, fun, and wonderfully true. We cannot [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peoples Press Collective &#124; Colorado Politics &#124; Political Breath :</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/27/its-time-for-a-menaissance/comment-page-1/#comment-100138</link>
		<dc:creator>Peoples Press Collective &#124; Colorado Politics &#124; Political Breath :</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 04:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] inspirations, their guide on buying a good suit&#8230;and we flat out adore their use of the term &#8216;Menaissance&#8217;. Go to their site and absorb the goodness. It&#8217;s witty, fun, and wonderfully true. We cannot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] inspirations, their guide on buying a good suit&#8230;and we flat out adore their use of the term &#8216;Menaissance&#8217;. Go to their site and absorb the goodness. It&#8217;s witty, fun, and wonderfully true. We cannot [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Englishbob</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/27/its-time-for-a-menaissance/comment-page-1/#comment-99744</link>
		<dc:creator>Englishbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often hear this phrase &quot;Equal Pay for Equal Work.&quot;

Personally, I don&#039;t see the problem with, on average, men earning more than women.  I don&#039;t actually know if that is even the case any more (I have seen studies that dispute this).  But assuming it is the case there are good reasons why men would earn more than women.  Just as one example, in my experience, women are not generally as productive as men.  By that I do not mean they are bad workers but that they tend to have higher priorities than work (such as children).  This means they work less hours and work in jobs that allow them to spend more time with their children.  This means they are likely to earn less.

Further, they tend to be married to men who earn more than them which is surely a benefit rather than a disadvantage.

As a man I feel compelled to earn more than my girlfriend.  I assume this part of a man&#039;s nature.  This is merely motivation to work harder, which again is a benefit for us both.  As a realist however, I think it is to my advantage if my women earns more than me.  That way when we get divorced I can take half her stuff instead of the other way round (joke!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often hear this phrase &#8220;Equal Pay for Equal Work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t see the problem with, on average, men earning more than women.  I don&#8217;t actually know if that is even the case any more (I have seen studies that dispute this).  But assuming it is the case there are good reasons why men would earn more than women.  Just as one example, in my experience, women are not generally as productive as men.  By that I do not mean they are bad workers but that they tend to have higher priorities than work (such as children).  This means they work less hours and work in jobs that allow them to spend more time with their children.  This means they are likely to earn less.</p>
<p>Further, they tend to be married to men who earn more than them which is surely a benefit rather than a disadvantage.</p>
<p>As a man I feel compelled to earn more than my girlfriend.  I assume this part of a man&#8217;s nature.  This is merely motivation to work harder, which again is a benefit for us both.  As a realist however, I think it is to my advantage if my women earns more than me.  That way when we get divorced I can take half her stuff instead of the other way round (joke!).</p>
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		<title>By: Bosshawg</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/27/its-time-for-a-menaissance/comment-page-1/#comment-98787</link>
		<dc:creator>Bosshawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Authentic masculinity can be found in the following definition:  Real men;
1.) REJECT PASSIVITY.  They don&#039;t sit by wringing their hands and watch the world go to hell in a hand basket.  They ACT upon what is right....what is noble.   If something isn&#039;t right, they stand against it.  If something needs fixing, they fix it.  They take action!
2.)  They ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY.  Not just for their own lives, but for the good and well being of those within their sphere of influence.  That means a real man accepts full responsibility for his wife and children...for their development, well-being, etc.  And he breathes a vision for the possibilities into the lives of his children.
3.) He LEADS COURAGEOUSLY!  No matter of cost or consequence, a real man will step out and LEAD!  That&#039;s not just with noise.  That&#039;s leading by example.  It&#039;s leading by teaching, by showing, by modeling, by affirmation!

And here&#039;s the best part!  When a man lives his life in this fashion, PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW!  And they will follow.....willingly, because this man is worthy of followship.  Perhaps the greatest friction in this discussion is caused because women feel they are being forced into an ineffective and foolish pursuit!  In too many cases, women are being forced to &quot;follow&quot; a guy who simply isn&#039;t worthy of being followed.  He is passive, he doesn&#039;t take his role seriously enough to pursue growth in his masculinity and doesn&#039;t have the courage to face the opposition.  

When a man is noble; when he is a &quot;lover of right&quot;; when his primary purpose on this planet is to fulfill a role of SERVANT LEADERSHIP, their will be a line of people willing to follow.  And NONE of them will resent the thought of being in subjection to this man because HE in turn does not lord it over them, but rather leads from a position of servanthood.  And the person leading the parad of followers, trumpeting the strength and courage of this man....will be his WIFE!!!!!

In conclusion, it is important to embrace the idea that this isn&#039;t a case of either / or.  It&#039;s a case of both.  It&#039;s a two way street.  When the man conducts himself within the definition above, his wife will be inspired to fulfill her role as a woman.  And interestingly enough, when she responds to her man in this way, he in turn is inspired to greater acts of heroic leadership in their family.  It becomes a self-perpetuating healthy environment!  

I could go on forever on this topic but will shut up for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Authentic masculinity can be found in the following definition:  Real men;<br />
1.) REJECT PASSIVITY.  They don&#8217;t sit by wringing their hands and watch the world go to hell in a hand basket.  They ACT upon what is right&#8230;.what is noble.   If something isn&#8217;t right, they stand against it.  If something needs fixing, they fix it.  They take action!<br />
2.)  They ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY.  Not just for their own lives, but for the good and well being of those within their sphere of influence.  That means a real man accepts full responsibility for his wife and children&#8230;for their development, well-being, etc.  And he breathes a vision for the possibilities into the lives of his children.<br />
3.) He LEADS COURAGEOUSLY!  No matter of cost or consequence, a real man will step out and LEAD!  That&#8217;s not just with noise.  That&#8217;s leading by example.  It&#8217;s leading by teaching, by showing, by modeling, by affirmation!</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the best part!  When a man lives his life in this fashion, PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW!  And they will follow&#8230;..willingly, because this man is worthy of followship.  Perhaps the greatest friction in this discussion is caused because women feel they are being forced into an ineffective and foolish pursuit!  In too many cases, women are being forced to &#8220;follow&#8221; a guy who simply isn&#8217;t worthy of being followed.  He is passive, he doesn&#8217;t take his role seriously enough to pursue growth in his masculinity and doesn&#8217;t have the courage to face the opposition.  </p>
<p>When a man is noble; when he is a &#8220;lover of right&#8221;; when his primary purpose on this planet is to fulfill a role of SERVANT LEADERSHIP, their will be a line of people willing to follow.  And NONE of them will resent the thought of being in subjection to this man because HE in turn does not lord it over them, but rather leads from a position of servanthood.  And the person leading the parad of followers, trumpeting the strength and courage of this man&#8230;.will be his WIFE!!!!!</p>
<p>In conclusion, it is important to embrace the idea that this isn&#8217;t a case of either / or.  It&#8217;s a case of both.  It&#8217;s a two way street.  When the man conducts himself within the definition above, his wife will be inspired to fulfill her role as a woman.  And interestingly enough, when she responds to her man in this way, he in turn is inspired to greater acts of heroic leadership in their family.  It becomes a self-perpetuating healthy environment!  </p>
<p>I could go on forever on this topic but will shut up for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new generations are becoming &quot;Lost Boy&quot; generations as a product of the dissolving family unit and its strong male/female role models from our progressive culture and society.  Almost every civilization that has ever existed has had a &quot;rites of passage&quot; ritual in which, ONLY upon successful completion, the &quot;boy&quot; is recognized as a &quot;man&quot;.  These rites of passage were established by a civilization&#039;s ancestors and passed down from generation to generation and were believed to be SO important that it was required of ALL boys.  These rites were so incredibly difficult to complete that death of the boy was likely (metaphorically, even if the boy lived through his ordeal, the boy was considered &quot;dead&quot; at its conclusion).  The status of the boy after having passed their rite of passage had changed to that of a man.  In other words, he had been tested to prove his skills and qualities of a man and passed.

In our modern society we have lost our own civilization&#039;s rites of passage from boy to man.  Male role models are weak from and by their distance from their boys and from their own lack of strong masculine role models.  Because the new generations of boys no longer have this rite of passage forced upon them to prove their worthiness to the tribe and earn the right to marry and bear children, many of them grow into &quot;adulthood&quot; without ever achieving &quot;manhood&quot;.

Not all is lost, however.

Our society&#039;s condition can be cured by creating and establishing new tribes, such as the Art of Manliness website, where those individuals seeking the knowledge of and rites of passage to manliness can gather together to pass down and/or learn the wisdom and trials of manhood.  Although, our society no longer requires the &quot;death&quot; of the boy before bestowing manhood on the adult man, it can still be sought and &quot;chosen&quot; as the correct path to walk in order to achieve the status of &quot;a modern man&quot;.  This choice to accept the path to manhood is the first step towards achieving it and I believe this website, and the community which revolves around it, to be a well-concerted effort towards &quot;passing down&quot; the wisdom and knowledge of manliness and I thank you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new generations are becoming &#8220;Lost Boy&#8221; generations as a product of the dissolving family unit and its strong male/female role models from our progressive culture and society.  Almost every civilization that has ever existed has had a &#8220;rites of passage&#8221; ritual in which, ONLY upon successful completion, the &#8220;boy&#8221; is recognized as a &#8220;man&#8221;.  These rites of passage were established by a civilization&#8217;s ancestors and passed down from generation to generation and were believed to be SO important that it was required of ALL boys.  These rites were so incredibly difficult to complete that death of the boy was likely (metaphorically, even if the boy lived through his ordeal, the boy was considered &#8220;dead&#8221; at its conclusion).  The status of the boy after having passed their rite of passage had changed to that of a man.  In other words, he had been tested to prove his skills and qualities of a man and passed.</p>
<p>In our modern society we have lost our own civilization&#8217;s rites of passage from boy to man.  Male role models are weak from and by their distance from their boys and from their own lack of strong masculine role models.  Because the new generations of boys no longer have this rite of passage forced upon them to prove their worthiness to the tribe and earn the right to marry and bear children, many of them grow into &#8220;adulthood&#8221; without ever achieving &#8220;manhood&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not all is lost, however.</p>
<p>Our society&#8217;s condition can be cured by creating and establishing new tribes, such as the Art of Manliness website, where those individuals seeking the knowledge of and rites of passage to manliness can gather together to pass down and/or learn the wisdom and trials of manhood.  Although, our society no longer requires the &#8220;death&#8221; of the boy before bestowing manhood on the adult man, it can still be sought and &#8220;chosen&#8221; as the correct path to walk in order to achieve the status of &#8220;a modern man&#8221;.  This choice to accept the path to manhood is the first step towards achieving it and I believe this website, and the community which revolves around it, to be a well-concerted effort towards &#8220;passing down&#8221; the wisdom and knowledge of manliness and I thank you for it.</p>
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