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		<title>By: DT</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/25/what-happened-to-wartime-sacrifice/comment-page-3/#comment-39720</link>
		<dc:creator>DT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Today we are involved in two wars: the war in Iraq and the war against terrorism.&quot;

Depending on whom you ask, they are both part of the &quot;War on Terror.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today we are involved in two wars: the war in Iraq and the war against terrorism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Depending on whom you ask, they are both part of the &#8220;War on Terror.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hillmatt</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/25/what-happened-to-wartime-sacrifice/comment-page-3/#comment-33959</link>
		<dc:creator>hillmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as for my sacrifice, I&#039;ll be in Afghanistan fighting this war</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as for my sacrifice, I&#8217;ll be in Afghanistan fighting this war</p>
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		<title>By: hillmatt</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/25/what-happened-to-wartime-sacrifice/comment-page-2/#comment-33958</link>
		<dc:creator>hillmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you the main reason that American&#039;s were willing to sacrifice during WWII is that they had just begun to come out of a 25 year long Depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you the main reason that American&#8217;s were willing to sacrifice during WWII is that they had just begun to come out of a 25 year long Depression.</p>
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		<title>By: young money</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/25/what-happened-to-wartime-sacrifice/comment-page-2/#comment-21976</link>
		<dc:creator>young money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the goverment does nothing but cheat us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the goverment does nothing but cheat us</p>
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		<title>By: Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a concise and well written article. Bravo. To all the people criticizing the author, just give it another read. But, keep in mind that he is calling for the same goal as you.

Brett is not agreeing with the war. He is saying we need to feel it so that we will further rethink the consequences of entering into conflict. The only way sure way to cease the fighting is to feel the results of the conflict at home. Wars that are in a foreign land are out of site and for the average American, out of mind.

This board is an area for posting intelligent content. For that intelligent content to be criticized in a way based on faulty interpretations is a waste of space.

To &#039;you people&#039;: Stop whining on an internet board and go better your community. Try to show the world that I&#039;m not part of the entitlement generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a concise and well written article. Bravo. To all the people criticizing the author, just give it another read. But, keep in mind that he is calling for the same goal as you.</p>
<p>Brett is not agreeing with the war. He is saying we need to feel it so that we will further rethink the consequences of entering into conflict. The only way sure way to cease the fighting is to feel the results of the conflict at home. Wars that are in a foreign land are out of site and for the average American, out of mind.</p>
<p>This board is an area for posting intelligent content. For that intelligent content to be criticized in a way based on faulty interpretations is a waste of space.</p>
<p>To &#8216;you people&#8217;: Stop whining on an internet board and go better your community. Try to show the world that I&#8217;m not part of the entitlement generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Wylde Brumby</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/25/what-happened-to-wartime-sacrifice/comment-page-2/#comment-17043</link>
		<dc:creator>Wylde Brumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you bought and read the ebook &quot;Web of Debt&quot;, you would realise that a large part of WW2 was really that Germany copied the American concept of creating its own currency, that was in place at the time of President Lincoln. A currency free from the malign influence of the bankers.

This currency is what allowed Germany to regain its strength after being bankrupted by the Treaty of Versailles reparations forced on the losers. The bankers were fearful that they would lose their precious monopoly to control the peoples of the world, and their countries, to be able to steal resources at bargain basement prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you bought and read the ebook &#8220;Web of Debt&#8221;, you would realise that a large part of WW2 was really that Germany copied the American concept of creating its own currency, that was in place at the time of President Lincoln. A currency free from the malign influence of the bankers.</p>
<p>This currency is what allowed Germany to regain its strength after being bankrupted by the Treaty of Versailles reparations forced on the losers. The bankers were fearful that they would lose their precious monopoly to control the peoples of the world, and their countries, to be able to steal resources at bargain basement prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Wylde Brumby</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/25/what-happened-to-wartime-sacrifice/comment-page-2/#comment-17042</link>
		<dc:creator>Wylde Brumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that America has great potential but people don&#039;t have access to what is really happening - being fed sound bites instead of discussion of the real issues.

I thought Americans were limited by their constitution against having a permanently raised army(defense force). I was under the impression that was the reason for the amendment about the right to bear arms.

When a country has a permanently raised army it encourages the leaders and those who influence them to look for trouble.

After reading the ebook &quot;Web of Debt&quot; it describes the Western world being held in bondage as fiscal slaves - the bankers control your &quot;federal&quot; reserve by a private bankers cartel that stole the American government&#039;s ability to &quot; ~ coin and regulate the value of their currency ~ &quot;.

A description of how the &quot;federal &quot; reserve creates debt through loans that appear out of thin air. More money is borrowed when the government goes to war - creating larger profits for the bankers.


BTW the website where you can buy the ebook is [ www.webofdebt.com ] .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that America has great potential but people don&#8217;t have access to what is really happening &#8211; being fed sound bites instead of discussion of the real issues.</p>
<p>I thought Americans were limited by their constitution against having a permanently raised army(defense force). I was under the impression that was the reason for the amendment about the right to bear arms.</p>
<p>When a country has a permanently raised army it encourages the leaders and those who influence them to look for trouble.</p>
<p>After reading the ebook &#8220;Web of Debt&#8221; it describes the Western world being held in bondage as fiscal slaves &#8211; the bankers control your &#8220;federal&#8221; reserve by a private bankers cartel that stole the American government&#8217;s ability to &#8221; ~ coin and regulate the value of their currency ~ &#8220;.</p>
<p>A description of how the &#8220;federal &#8221; reserve creates debt through loans that appear out of thin air. More money is borrowed when the government goes to war &#8211; creating larger profits for the bankers.</p>
<p>BTW the website where you can buy the ebook is [ <a href="http://www.webofdebt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.webofdebt.com</a> ] .</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/25/what-happened-to-wartime-sacrifice/comment-page-2/#comment-17035</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for the soldiers! This war CAN be won, but not by THIS generation of &quot;Americans.&quot; They&#039;re weak-willed, arrogant, and have no real ability to clearly differentiate right from wrong. They wouldn&#039;t even think of joining the service for a cause which was just and right because they wouldn&#039;t know what one was! The islamic terrorists have been starting this war with the US for decades, not just on 9/11. But we stood by, time and again, and refused to act with appropriate actions to stave off the cancer, so it grew. Now, we have evil islamic extremists, who are totally dedicated to THEIR cause and religion, versus &quot;Americans&quot; who cry &quot;separation of Church and State&quot; when someone wants to say a silent prayer in school! Please! Who do you really think will win this war of ideology and perserverence?! WE are NOT anything like the Americans who founded this great nation. We aren&#039;t even close. &quot;Americans&quot; of today have pushed away the tenets of Judeo-Christian values, which were the very tenents on which this country was based - the very values that gave us our &quot;rights&quot;...and, in doing so, we have created a dangerous vaccuum. I mean, c&#039;mon, do you really think THIS generation could have stopped the Nazi&#039;s in the 40&#039;s??! No way! If this generation had to sacrifice and fight that war, I would be writing this in German right now! No one wants a war! But, some foes won&#039;t settle for anything less. Talk won&#039;t work. Sanctions won&#039;t work. They must be stopped by force first. We gave peace a chance... It didn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for the soldiers! This war CAN be won, but not by THIS generation of &#8220;Americans.&#8221; They&#8217;re weak-willed, arrogant, and have no real ability to clearly differentiate right from wrong. They wouldn&#8217;t even think of joining the service for a cause which was just and right because they wouldn&#8217;t know what one was! The islamic terrorists have been starting this war with the US for decades, not just on 9/11. But we stood by, time and again, and refused to act with appropriate actions to stave off the cancer, so it grew. Now, we have evil islamic extremists, who are totally dedicated to THEIR cause and religion, versus &#8220;Americans&#8221; who cry &#8220;separation of Church and State&#8221; when someone wants to say a silent prayer in school! Please! Who do you really think will win this war of ideology and perserverence?! WE are NOT anything like the Americans who founded this great nation. We aren&#8217;t even close. &#8220;Americans&#8221; of today have pushed away the tenets of Judeo-Christian values, which were the very tenents on which this country was based &#8211; the very values that gave us our &#8220;rights&#8221;&#8230;and, in doing so, we have created a dangerous vaccuum. I mean, c&#8217;mon, do you really think THIS generation could have stopped the Nazi&#8217;s in the 40&#8217;s??! No way! If this generation had to sacrifice and fight that war, I would be writing this in German right now! No one wants a war! But, some foes won&#8217;t settle for anything less. Talk won&#8217;t work. Sanctions won&#8217;t work. They must be stopped by force first. We gave peace a chance&#8230; It didn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that National sacrifice is necessary during a time of war and hold several points in agreement with you.  I&#039;m not going to dissect every point of disagreement with you, only one:

I disagree wholeheartedly with you about any form of a National Homeland Security Force.  

First, it runs counter to the Constitution of the United States.  We a real military and real militias in the form of National Guards.  If someone wants to make a sacrifice - a real sacrifice - let him join the military.  By the way, I&#039;m on active duty myself and have 17 years in.

Second, every nation that has started a second form of pseudo-military manned by civilians who wanted sacrifice without real-military service turned either socialist or fascist - remember the brown shirts?

Third, it weakens the pool of potential candidates for the military.  The military does its best work when given the opportunity to draw upon the strength of America.  When given the chance to possibly go to a mountainous range in Afghanistan or a comfortable &quot;post&quot; in the states, today&#039;s XBox generation would prefer the wi-fi connected post.

If there must be a Homeland Security Force, let it be the US Military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that National sacrifice is necessary during a time of war and hold several points in agreement with you.  I&#8217;m not going to dissect every point of disagreement with you, only one:</p>
<p>I disagree wholeheartedly with you about any form of a National Homeland Security Force.  </p>
<p>First, it runs counter to the Constitution of the United States.  We a real military and real militias in the form of National Guards.  If someone wants to make a sacrifice &#8211; a real sacrifice &#8211; let him join the military.  By the way, I&#8217;m on active duty myself and have 17 years in.</p>
<p>Second, every nation that has started a second form of pseudo-military manned by civilians who wanted sacrifice without real-military service turned either socialist or fascist &#8211; remember the brown shirts?</p>
<p>Third, it weakens the pool of potential candidates for the military.  The military does its best work when given the opportunity to draw upon the strength of America.  When given the chance to possibly go to a mountainous range in Afghanistan or a comfortable &#8220;post&#8221; in the states, today&#8217;s XBox generation would prefer the wi-fi connected post.</p>
<p>If there must be a Homeland Security Force, let it be the US Military.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone made the argument that the gov. does not want us to feel the pinch of sacrifice for then it would have to end its policies. I believe that if it is not worth sacrificing for, it&#039;s not worth it. When you want something done, you have to feel it. One may not agree with the war on terror, its phrasing, Huntingtons rediculous theories or neoconservative politicing, but the best thing we can do is support the cause for peace here. If the gulf states promoting terrorist activities and preaching anti-American sentiment did not have oil money to bypass its citizen&#039;s voices with, the world would be a better place. Yes, taxes are necessary to move to get things done, but instead of cursing the president, curse the unproportional dividend going to the Pentagon. Vote for a leaner, meaner fighting machine with competitive military suppliers rather than favorites. If we sacrifice at home, if we accept drafts, we will fight only when it is necessary and we will do it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone made the argument that the gov. does not want us to feel the pinch of sacrifice for then it would have to end its policies. I believe that if it is not worth sacrificing for, it&#8217;s not worth it. When you want something done, you have to feel it. One may not agree with the war on terror, its phrasing, Huntingtons rediculous theories or neoconservative politicing, but the best thing we can do is support the cause for peace here. If the gulf states promoting terrorist activities and preaching anti-American sentiment did not have oil money to bypass its citizen&#8217;s voices with, the world would be a better place. Yes, taxes are necessary to move to get things done, but instead of cursing the president, curse the unproportional dividend going to the Pentagon. Vote for a leaner, meaner fighting machine with competitive military suppliers rather than favorites. If we sacrifice at home, if we accept drafts, we will fight only when it is necessary and we will do it well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nofmeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nofmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I think complacency is what got us here.  Back in October 12, 2000, when the USS Cole was attacked by terrorists, 17 sailors were killed.  There was literally NOTHING done about it in regards to retaliation or any military action.  It is probably the motivator for terrorists to carry out the September 11 attacks on the US.

Why didn&#039;t the American public get more rattled about the attack that killed 17 sailors?  I&#039;d have to say it wasn&#039;t sacrifice at that time, but a severe lack of focus on what is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I think complacency is what got us here.  Back in October 12, 2000, when the USS Cole was attacked by terrorists, 17 sailors were killed.  There was literally NOTHING done about it in regards to retaliation or any military action.  It is probably the motivator for terrorists to carry out the September 11 attacks on the US.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t the American public get more rattled about the attack that killed 17 sailors?  I&#8217;d have to say it wasn&#8217;t sacrifice at that time, but a severe lack of focus on what is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Doogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post - An American Sailor in Afghanistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post &#8211; An American Sailor in Afghanistan</p>
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		<dc:creator>mr. dont know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would like to find the civilian gentleman who purchased a watch for me.if you would just write to my e-mail and tell me where you were stationed and when,I would like to make things right</p>
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		<title>By: Dandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am young, barely an adult, so I will readily admit that I don&#039;t know jack when it comes to true war effort, or even to the true meaning of a country at war. Here in Australia there have been assorted types of tax fiddling, and no one seems to be making much of an effort towards actually doing something at a grassroots level to end the war as soon as possible, except maybe a few letters from groups to assorted political figures.
I see that in order for a war to be over with, certain monetary issues need to be resolved. I hope we in Australia can do something tangible in this respect. Of course we have our own problems (drought and cities fighting with rural farming communities over water rights, the high costs of living due to inflation heading towards recession, the overall rental housing crisis etc) but that doesn&#039;t mean we should leave our troops out in the cold when it comes to monetary and actionable support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am young, barely an adult, so I will readily admit that I don&#8217;t know jack when it comes to true war effort, or even to the true meaning of a country at war. Here in Australia there have been assorted types of tax fiddling, and no one seems to be making much of an effort towards actually doing something at a grassroots level to end the war as soon as possible, except maybe a few letters from groups to assorted political figures.<br />
I see that in order for a war to be over with, certain monetary issues need to be resolved. I hope we in Australia can do something tangible in this respect. Of course we have our own problems (drought and cities fighting with rural farming communities over water rights, the high costs of living due to inflation heading towards recession, the overall rental housing crisis etc) but that doesn&#8217;t mean we should leave our troops out in the cold when it comes to monetary and actionable support.</p>
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