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		<title>By: Dealing with Male Depression &#124; The Art of Manliness</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-45123</link>
		<dc:creator>Dealing with Male Depression &#124; The Art of Manliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] method that I use to deal with depression is physical exercise. Vigorous exercise releases chemicals in the brain, such as dopamine, that can elevate mood [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Late Bloomer: Antidepressants Ineffective &#171; Mature Health</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-12608</link>
		<dc:creator>Late Bloomer: Antidepressants Ineffective &#171; Mature Health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Baniz</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-11928</link>
		<dc:creator>Baniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want my advice docters should prescibe them exercise and give them enough laughing gas that they have a smile on their face.</description>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-5207</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. Thank you. I did it myself, I am curing my depression with exercise every day. This is the only way for me and it really really works. Also, I now look fantastic! That helps to some extent but the most important thing is just increased energy, endorphins, increased circulation, all the things that make me feel better and happier and stronger biochemically. Looking good alone isn&#039;t enough but it helps to feel proud of my fit and strong body as well. Along with daily rebounding and pilates, I follow a raw food lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Thank you. I did it myself, I am curing my depression with exercise every day. This is the only way for me and it really really works. Also, I now look fantastic! That helps to some extent but the most important thing is just increased energy, endorphins, increased circulation, all the things that make me feel better and happier and stronger biochemically. Looking good alone isn&#8217;t enough but it helps to feel proud of my fit and strong body as well. Along with daily rebounding and pilates, I follow a raw food lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: apollonian</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-3214</link>
		<dc:creator>apollonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to throw in with others who warn against suddenly stopping an anti-depressant regimen.  Also, why shouldn&#039;t one use both medication and exercise to address depression?  Like others have mentions, medication can offer a jump start that makes self-improvement efforts manageable.

Also, major clinical depression is not a &quot;case of the blues.&quot;  If you have experienced major clinical depression, you&#039;d absolutely know it.  Neurochemical imbalance is most definitely a proven factor in major clinical depression: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression#Physiological

That said, exercise and diet is the bedrock foundation of a productive existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to throw in with others who warn against suddenly stopping an anti-depressant regimen.  Also, why shouldn&#8217;t one use both medication and exercise to address depression?  Like others have mentions, medication can offer a jump start that makes self-improvement efforts manageable.</p>
<p>Also, major clinical depression is not a &#8220;case of the blues.&#8221;  If you have experienced major clinical depression, you&#8217;d absolutely know it.  Neurochemical imbalance is most definitely a proven factor in major clinical depression: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression#Physiological" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression#Physiological</a></p>
<p>That said, exercise and diet is the bedrock foundation of a productive existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Anony</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-2697</link>
		<dc:creator>Anony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think problem in this argument is the understanding of depression.

Personally, I feel the term is overused. There is a difference between clinical depression and just feeling (extremely) down. Doctors do not always jump to medication as a solution; if one does so, this is an irresponsible doctor. In cases of clinical depression, as some have mentioned above, medication is needed as an aid. It is not prescribed just to cure all the symptoms. It doesn&#039;t work without taking steps and finding support to pull one&#039;s self out of depression.

I think you mean to suggest exercise as a solution to the down and out feelings that people will often say, &quot;I am depressed&quot;. This I agree, because often I feel a high after exerting myself. If you don&#039;t have clinical depression, stop moping and go out for a run or something.</description>
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<p>Personally, I feel the term is overused. There is a difference between clinical depression and just feeling (extremely) down. Doctors do not always jump to medication as a solution; if one does so, this is an irresponsible doctor. In cases of clinical depression, as some have mentioned above, medication is needed as an aid. It is not prescribed just to cure all the symptoms. It doesn&#8217;t work without taking steps and finding support to pull one&#8217;s self out of depression.</p>
<p>I think you mean to suggest exercise as a solution to the down and out feelings that people will often say, &#8220;I am depressed&#8221;. This I agree, because often I feel a high after exerting myself. If you don&#8217;t have clinical depression, stop moping and go out for a run or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How one handles depression shows the true core of ones being.

Yes, all seems fuzzy and there is great lack of motivation when one is depressed. But just as much of this site talks about, it&#039;s a matter of being the man and rising up to the moment and doing the right thing when it really is hard to do so that shows how much of a man you are. You may not want to work out, you might not feel the attractiveness of it. Most people, when depressed, are only motivated to do things that make them even more sad, like moap around in how sad their lives are, watch tragic movies to self-reflect with, etc.

But doesn&#039;t getting out of most cases of depression involve starting a positive momentum in life and maintaining it? Some say that drugs and chemical adjustment to your brain is needed because your brain is holding you back. But I believe this is true only for the few most severe cases of depression that initiated from some biological issue. From what I can tell most people&#039;s depressions are caused by negative interaction with life that perhaps ended up in a chemical imbalance.

Think of it this way. Just like a long relationship ending can cause you to crash hard and develop depression and thus chemical imbalance, starting something new and seeking out joys in life and self-respect through exercise and other positive acts can promote chemical balance. I think it&#039;s this modern lack-of-responsibility that&#039;s preventing most common depressives from pushing through and taking initiative. It&#039;s hard, but you gotta do it. No different from anything else.

And yes, I&#039;ve been depressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How one handles depression shows the true core of ones being.</p>
<p>Yes, all seems fuzzy and there is great lack of motivation when one is depressed. But just as much of this site talks about, it&#8217;s a matter of being the man and rising up to the moment and doing the right thing when it really is hard to do so that shows how much of a man you are. You may not want to work out, you might not feel the attractiveness of it. Most people, when depressed, are only motivated to do things that make them even more sad, like moap around in how sad their lives are, watch tragic movies to self-reflect with, etc.</p>
<p>But doesn&#8217;t getting out of most cases of depression involve starting a positive momentum in life and maintaining it? Some say that drugs and chemical adjustment to your brain is needed because your brain is holding you back. But I believe this is true only for the few most severe cases of depression that initiated from some biological issue. From what I can tell most people&#8217;s depressions are caused by negative interaction with life that perhaps ended up in a chemical imbalance.</p>
<p>Think of it this way. Just like a long relationship ending can cause you to crash hard and develop depression and thus chemical imbalance, starting something new and seeking out joys in life and self-respect through exercise and other positive acts can promote chemical balance. I think it&#8217;s this modern lack-of-responsibility that&#8217;s preventing most common depressives from pushing through and taking initiative. It&#8217;s hard, but you gotta do it. No different from anything else.</p>
<p>And yes, I&#8217;ve been depressed.</p>
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		<title>By: There&#8217;s More to Life Than Six Pack Abs &#124; The Art of Manliness</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-2394</link>
		<dc:creator>There&#8217;s More to Life Than Six Pack Abs &#124; The Art of Manliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] benefits: it can boost your brain power, help your heart, prevent Alzheimers, alleviate stress, and knock out your depression. But if the focus of your workouts is to add another inch to your bicep or to go down 1 percentage [...]</description>
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		<title>By: up to the minute news headlines</title>
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		<dc:creator>up to the minute news headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was an accident.http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/040708kvueteenshooting-cb.3d8890b4.html?npcThe Art of Manliness: Knock Out Depression With Exercise&amp;quot???A brisk 30-minute walk or jog around the track three times a week may be just as effective [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Break-up survival &#171; Notes on Sex and Love</title>
		<link>http://artofmanliness.com/2008/02/19/knock-out-depression-with-exercise/comment-page-1/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Break-up survival &#171; Notes on Sex and Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] feeling. You may even feel small shots of joy after a week or so. Really. See this article or this one. Guys especially: Since sexual dysfunction can be a side-effect of anti-depressives (and of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. The sciencedaily.com link refers to Major Depressive Disorder. There are a number of illnesses classed as depression with many causes and treatments. The results of this study do not include them. Some of these forms have very high suicide and self-harm rates. Also, withdrawal form many SSRIs is a process that must be supervised carefully by a doctor due to the high chance of dangerous withdrawal effects if they are stopped too quickly.

If people feel pressured into dropping their medication because of this blog posts &#039;man up and stop taking your pills&#039; message and then suffer, their blood is on your hands.

If anyone suffering from depression is reading this - please talk to your doctor about the various treatments available - medication, diet, exercise, therapy and so on. Be aware that different combinations of these will work for different people. Do not withdraw from your medication without checking with a doctor first.

The point stands that the author of the blog post has commited the flaw in reasoning of promoting &quot;may&quot; to &quot;is&quot;. If you read the links you can see the amount of backpedalling done by the interviewed researchers to stop people from making this mistake. For anyone who wants to learn more about how to interpret scientific studies and the pop-sci articles written about them, the bad science blog and the book &#039;Voodoo Science&#039; are worth looking at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. The sciencedaily.com link refers to Major Depressive Disorder. There are a number of illnesses classed as depression with many causes and treatments. The results of this study do not include them. Some of these forms have very high suicide and self-harm rates. Also, withdrawal form many SSRIs is a process that must be supervised carefully by a doctor due to the high chance of dangerous withdrawal effects if they are stopped too quickly.</p>
<p>If people feel pressured into dropping their medication because of this blog posts &#8216;man up and stop taking your pills&#8217; message and then suffer, their blood is on your hands.</p>
<p>If anyone suffering from depression is reading this &#8211; please talk to your doctor about the various treatments available &#8211; medication, diet, exercise, therapy and so on. Be aware that different combinations of these will work for different people. Do not withdraw from your medication without checking with a doctor first.</p>
<p>The point stands that the author of the blog post has commited the flaw in reasoning of promoting &#8220;may&#8221; to &#8220;is&#8221;. If you read the links you can see the amount of backpedalling done by the interviewed researchers to stop people from making this mistake. For anyone who wants to learn more about how to interpret scientific studies and the pop-sci articles written about them, the bad science blog and the book &#8216;Voodoo Science&#8217; are worth looking at.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anon-

Studies always use the word &quot;may&quot; because with any scientific study it is hard to prove something 100%. But the fact that exercise worked just as well as SSRI&#039;s IS what the study found. And follow-up studies showed the same thing.

Also see the NYT link above for an article that shows conclusively that SSRI&#039;s ARE only marginally more effective than sugar pills.</description>
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<p>Studies always use the word &#8220;may&#8221; because with any scientific study it is hard to prove something 100%. But the fact that exercise worked just as well as SSRI&#8217;s IS what the study found. And follow-up studies showed the same thing.</p>
<p>Also see the NYT link above for an article that shows conclusively that SSRI&#8217;s ARE only marginally more effective than sugar pills.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logical flaws in this article. It says both:

A brisk 30-minute walk or jog around the track three times a week may be just as effective in relieving the symptoms of major depression as the standard treatment of anti-depressant medications, according to the results of a Duke University Medical Center study.

and

Exercise is not only just as effective as antidepressants, its side effects are all beneficial.

Is it &quot;may&quot; or &quot;is&quot;?

Also, this is factually incorrect:

&quot;And when was the last time you heard of a doctor prescribing exercise to a depressed patient?&quot;

It is very common for doctors to tell depressed patients to try exercise. It&#039;s printed in most &#039;what to do if you are depressed&#039; leaflets. It is beyond the capabilities of a doctor to &#039;prescribe&#039; anything other than medication.

&quot;I do not think, AGT, that proposing that people try exercise over drugs is in any way a dangerous idea. Remember, SSRI’s and exercise proved just as effective in alleviating depression.&quot;

This is dangerous misinformation. Some forms of depression have a suicide rate of 20%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logical flaws in this article. It says both:</p>
<p>A brisk 30-minute walk or jog around the track three times a week may be just as effective in relieving the symptoms of major depression as the standard treatment of anti-depressant medications, according to the results of a Duke University Medical Center study.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Exercise is not only just as effective as antidepressants, its side effects are all beneficial.</p>
<p>Is it &#8220;may&#8221; or &#8220;is&#8221;?</p>
<p>Also, this is factually incorrect:</p>
<p>&#8220;And when was the last time you heard of a doctor prescribing exercise to a depressed patient?&#8221;</p>
<p>It is very common for doctors to tell depressed patients to try exercise. It&#8217;s printed in most &#8216;what to do if you are depressed&#8217; leaflets. It is beyond the capabilities of a doctor to &#8216;prescribe&#8217; anything other than medication.</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not think, AGT, that proposing that people try exercise over drugs is in any way a dangerous idea. Remember, SSRI’s and exercise proved just as effective in alleviating depression.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is dangerous misinformation. Some forms of depression have a suicide rate of 20%.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Online Pharmacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Penny Stocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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